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p.3 #1 · The right way to get into wedding photography


Very well written and probably a huge dose of reality for most photographers in most areas of our country.


Aug 05, 2012 at 06:18 AM
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photodudeny1 wrote:
Very well written and probably a huge dose of reality for most photographers in most areas of our country.


+1

Don't give up your day job. Do it for money, after you get the love of it out of your system. Don't give up your weekends lightly. Play golf instead.
Need LLC, insurance, 2nd shooter that can step in as primary in an emergency
The $ mentioned are too low though. Position and sell albums for decent $







Aug 05, 2012 at 10:00 AM
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p.3 #3 · The right way to get into wedding photography


Networking with other photographers is a good idea, but networking with wedding planners and coordinators is the way to bring in steady business
as well as other avenues.



Aug 05, 2012 at 10:12 AM
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deepbluejh wrote:
The free market is a bitch. Adapt or die. This is capitalism, pure and simple.

If you are no better than some $1200/wedding hack, then you deserve what you get. At all times your service and product should be befitting of your price tag. If not, expect someone to swoop in and "steel your cheese" so to speak.



Sigh.



Aug 05, 2012 at 10:46 AM
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If I had to have a license or follow a prescribed outline to "be allowed" to shoot weddings I would promptly drop out of the industry. I'm self employed because I can't be bothered to play by any rules or a game plan other than my own.

When I hear people complain about the "State of the industry" and "moms-with-cam" "driving them out of business" I don't feel much sympathy. Get better. Learn some new tricks. Do something different. This is only my 3rd year at it and I am not bothered in the slightest by these beginners / amateurs, nor do I think they are sucking away any business from me.

This is happening to most industries, including my "day job". Plenty of people out there with a hacked Photoshop and dreamweaver that can throw together a crap website for $500 on craigslist, but it doesn't keep the real clients from coming to us for quality work. I don't want those craigslist shoppers anyways, just like I dont want them for my wedding business either.

Most importantly- This is NOT bad for the industry, it is GREAT for the industry. Force the "dinosaurs" shooting soft-focus portraits and 4-hour packages hell bent on keeping the old status quo alive into retirement, and clear up market space for hungry young guns happily willing to cut them off at the knees with a superior product that is much more affordable and in tune with the times.

It sounds harsh, but it's life. The more photographers we have trying to be wedding photographers, or any kind of photographer for that matter- The higher the bar is raised and the better we all (The ones willing to adapt and grow at least) become. Personally, I find it all very exciting!!



Aug 05, 2012 at 04:07 PM
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GateCityPhotog wrote:

Stupid? Says who?

I'll offer some insight from someone who's been there and done that. This post is going to be long, but it is a wakeup call for those in denial, and an eye opening inside look from someone that has been there and doesn't need income from photography to feed his family.

I began having an interest in wedding photography about 7-8 years ago. You know, back in the good 'ole days

I had (still have) a day job and was/am making very good money in my profession. I did not need wedding photography income in any way, shape
...Show more

This post is worth its weight in gold.



Aug 05, 2012 at 06:03 PM
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MattSepeta wrote:
It sounds harsh, but it's life. The more photographers we have trying to be wedding photographers, or any kind of photographer for that matter- The higher the bar is raised and the better we all (The ones willing to adapt and grow at least) become. Personally, I find it all very exciting!!


The same phenomenon has occurred in creative writing, and it hasn't led to better writers...just much more money for MFA workshoppers (the writing equivalent of photography workshoppers). There are still a small number of rock star writers making it big, while the vast majority of folks are making less money (if any) each year.

If what's been written is true, this isn't going to lead to better photographers; it's just going to lead to far diminished rates for the vast majority of photographers. Even Todd, who writes regularly about the need to charge 5k, 7k, 9k for wedding photography, has also discussed at length how tempted he is to leave wedding photography for a steady job.



Aug 05, 2012 at 06:09 PM
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@GateCityPhotog
Awesome post! I couldn't agree with you more on the state of the industry. A photographer is only worth what the market will pay them.

@tobicus
I don't believe that the 5k, 7k, or 9k wedding photo package is going to be the prevailing form of wedding photography in the long run. There's probably a lot of newcomers to the industry already that can offer wedding photography for much less. Quality of wedding photography is going to possibly go lower but there's no research to really support that. As consumers, most people will probably go with photographers that they like already or who have an existing network. It can be an industry of "who you know" instead of an industry of "how good you are".



Aug 05, 2012 at 06:24 PM
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^ Yup, whtrbt7, I agree that in the long run, it's not sustainable for most photographers to work that way. We can argue that if every photographer decided to charge that much, then we could all earn that much, but the chances of that are slim to none when so many folks are unemployed, underemployed, or simply looking for a few extra dollars from a hobby.

There's also the argument that you only need a few dozen folks who are willing to pay your prices each year to make your business sustainable, and I agree with that argument, but unless you find those folks consistently and are beating back inquiries with sticks, that model isn't sustainable either for a full time photographer.

In the end, I wouldn't advise folks to go full time unless they found themselves making more on an annual basis (and not just per gig) from photography than they did from their day jobs. I don't see it as sustainable otherwise unless you aren't dependent on the income, such as if you have an inheritance, investments, or a spouse whose income can support your lifestyle.



Aug 05, 2012 at 09:35 PM
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