p.2 #2 · Canon EOS EF to EF-M converter WITH SHIFT MOVEMENTS
johnctharp wrote:
If this can be necro'd, I'd like to see if anyone has any leads!
And it can be necro'd- my purpose would be to use EF lenses, especially my Samyang 14/2.8, as tilt/shift lenses on my EOS-M.
The thought of some dead guys spirit divinely interceding in the possibility of this lens mount adapter’s formation by some manner in the future sorta spooks me out man! How about some dude from the future who comes back to let me know that this adapter will exist and when. Hmmm . . . better yet . . . maybe he could just bring me one as a gift. (Don’t know if our currency or my credit will be recognized in the future.) Just think, I would be the only person on the planet with one! At least for a little while anyway! Smiley Face or little guy running goes here. (I’m still going thru some learning curve here.)
Anyway. this is my first post on FM! I’ve been lurking around for years & learning a lot so it’s about time I joined in. I hope I did this right!
Thanks,
Dave
PS. Hey, I periodically spot Gunzorro’s posted photos sometimes of locations that are just a few miles from me. I’m beginning to wonder if I’ll spot myself in the background of one!
p.2 #3 · Canon EOS EF to EF-M converter WITH SHIFT MOVEMENTS
Thanks for resurrecting this, John!
I'd probably buy an M body right away if a reasonably priced T/S adapter (really, even a plain shift would interest me) was available with electronic aperture.
p.2 #4 · Canon EOS EF to EF-M converter WITH SHIFT MOVEMENTS
pmp6 wrote:
Hello fred miranda community,
This morning an idea struck me that I would love to see turn into reality. I think it would be awesome, but I was wondering what kind of reception it might get from others. Here's my idea:
An EF to EF-M converter that includes shift movements, allowing you to shift any of your EF lenses.
Here's why it would work:
1. To convert an EF to an EF-M, you need, in effect, an extension tube of ~22mm. That extra distance allows you space to put the necessary mechanics. Shifting and "super rotator" movements would be ideal.
2. EF lenses have image circles that far exceed the APS-C sensor on the new EOS M camera. Haven't done the calculations, but you should be able to shift a significant amount.
3. The tricky part will be the electronics necessary. To do it, I may have to buy a Canon EF to EF-M adapter and disassemble it.
4. Tilting probably wouldn't work. My guess is that when you tilt the lens, the apex is the lens' nodal point, which will be different for every lens, and dynamic for zoom lenses.
5. Another bonus feature would be to fix a tripod mount to the LENS side of the shift mechanism. That way when you are making a panoramic with shift movements, there will be no parallax error. It'll be so easy to stitch the resultant picture.
My question to the community would be, would you want one? I have a TS-E 24 and I love it. I have tons of EF glass and I would love to have the shift functions on all my lenses....Show more →
Make it and customers will come although the market is limited given that the EOS M is/was not exactly popular, less so with serious enthusiasts and professionals. But like it has been mentioned in this thread, the adapter might actually increase the popularity of the EOS M to levels it never had.
p.2 #5 · Canon EOS EF to EF-M converter WITH SHIFT MOVEMENTS
What about if you just designed it with the Mirrorless market.
Then we could use the exsisting adapters out there to convert to/from anything!
Opens up the market, and with the T/S, perfect registration isnt required
p.2 #6 · Canon EOS EF to EF-M converter WITH SHIFT MOVEMENTS
What baffles me is that there are M42 and Nikon F T/S adapters from Kipon already, and that the only thing an EF -> EF-M T/S adapter would need is the EOS contacts and a ribbon. Kipon would make bank with an adapter that supported AF and IS too- imagine using the 24-70/4L as a T/S lens .
p.2 #8 · Canon EOS EF to EF-M converter WITH SHIFT MOVEMENTS
kodakeos wrote:
what about combining an EFM, M42 adapter and M42 shift.
You can go from M42 to EF, but not the other way around... I spent an hour digging around to see if I could find any way to physically get EF glass mounted to the EOS-M using any of the adapters available, but I found that you can only go from an old system to a new system, and that all of the adapters that adapt EF to anything are full-fledged adapters to other APS-C or M43 systems, not shims.
p.2 #10 · Canon EOS EF to EF-M converter WITH SHIFT MOVEMENTS
kodakeos wrote:
Wheres that guy that built his own EFM focal reducer?!
One would think that there'd be a way to hack something together using two or more adapters; possibly use Kipon's Nikon F to EOS-M T/S adapter and change the mount with a donor EF to EOS-M adapter supplying the active lens mounts.
But I'd love Kipon or Fotodiox or Novoflex or hell Metabones to take it on themselves; that the EOS-M remains so very cheap and that this setup would provide the quality (or nearly so) of Canon's T/S lenses in a much smaller and lighter format is crazy.
I mean, hell, I could use every lens I have for this- and my 24/2.8 IS would turn into a 'walk-around wide-angle tilt/shift' .
p.2 #12 · Canon EOS EF to EF-M converter WITH SHIFT MOVEMENTS
kodakeos wrote:
Certainly give me another reason to buy the 10-18 IS again!
Actually, it wouldn't- the idea of a mirror-less crop sensor using full-frame lenses on a tilt/shift adapter is that the full-frame lenses have a much larger image circle, and thus can be shifted around for perspective correction; granted, tilt may work reasonably well with EF-S and other crop lenses, but ideally you'd want to have both with the adapter and adapted lenses .
p.2 #14 · Canon EOS EF to EF-M converter WITH SHIFT MOVEMENTS
johnctharp wrote:
One would think that there'd be a way to hack something together using two or more adapters; possibly use Kipon's Nikon F to EOS-M T/S adapter and change the mount with a donor EF to EOS-M adapter supplying the active lens mounts.
But I'd love Kipon or Fotodiox or Novoflex or hell Metabones to take it on themselves; that the EOS-M remains so very cheap and that this setup would provide the quality (or nearly so) of Canon's T/S lenses in a much smaller and lighter format is crazy.
I mean, hell, I could use every lens I have for this- and my 24/2.8 IS would turn into a 'walk-around wide-angle tilt/shift' ....Show more →
To me trying to Frankenstein my own shifting adaptor with full electrical connection for EF lenses out of parts from other adapters at home would be very difficult at best combined with a low chance of success. I think the Kipon T&S NIK-EOS M adaptor that I ran across is the same one you and others are referring to that’s for Nikon lenses with manual aperture rings & manual focus as there is no electrical connection to the camera. This adapter also has a rotating camera mount flange so the modification to convert it to mount EF lenses including electrical connection has to accommodate 3 types of movements, tilt, shift, as mentioned earlier, and also don’t forget the rotation. It appears that the tilt & shift on this adapter is fixed at 90 Deg in relation to each other or there’d be a 4th movement to contend with.
Wow, there’s a lot of good discussion so far!
I agree with the OP that the electronics would be the tricky part with implementation of a home built adapter. I doubt there are actual electronics and am guessing that the connection is probably electrical continuity only however still tricky mechanically speaking. Another deterrent for me is knowing that my cobbled together creation will likely have electro/mechanical “teething problems”, in a literal sense, causing at least reliability issues or worse causing electrical trauma to both camera & lens.
I agree with others that there is a small niche market that one of the adapter manufacturers may address. Maybe one of the reasons there isn’t an EF version yet is that they developed the easy ones first.
For now the choices are either to wait to see if full EF version appears or go the Nikon lens route or be a trail-blazer if you are both skilled & adventuresome and make your own.
I do hope Canon announces M2 availability or an M3 at Photokina...I'd like to get one, may just get one, what a killer starter kit price!
EDIT - this sale states the item may be an import, warranty is via 6ave; 1yr parts, 90days labor. Amazon has the same kit for $300 and it's not an import, has the standard Cannon 1yr warranty.
p.2 #17 · Canon EOS EF to EF-M converter WITH SHIFT MOVEMENTS
You can buy an old, decent view camera such as the Calumet monorail with a lens and a few holders for well under $500.
Then you have a ground glass large enough to see what the swing and tilt is actually doing as well as much greather correction/distortion control.
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