The most baffling thing about this camera is the lack of EVF, even a separate one.
The days of squinting at LCD and pointing camera with both hands and looking silly is over. Viewfinders are back with a vengeance. I will personally never buy a camera that has no viewfinder.
aleksanderpolo wrote:
dpreview's comparison page is your friend to see if the difference is noticeable to you.
DPReview's studio scene isn't actually very revealing of these differences. You have to download the raw files for ISO 100, push their dark areas two or three stops, and then peak into the black box with spools of thread, around this area. Even then, the full scale of the difference isn't apparent. Ideally the scene would have more contrast and larger areas of darkness with colour and fine detail.
That's why Canon doesn't care about this. Most photographers have no idea what to do with ~13 stops of dynamic range, since all their output devices have far less range than that, and most scenes don't need that for a pleasant rendition.
Gunzorro wrote:
For me, ultimately, the Canon M body (and to a lesser extent, M-lenses) will prove its value based on its IQ. I'm happy with my G10 images for what it does, and I'm very happy with my 5D2. If the M body produces images that equal or exceed my 60D (quite likely with the Digic 5 processor), I would be very happy indeed! That sort of quality from such a tiny package, and the use of my existing Canon and Canon-adapted Alt lenses -- hard not to like that!
Everything else is small potatoes -- EVF, fast AF, larger grip, etc. Plenty of room for a second edition.
#1 -- The body needs to focus accurately, even if that takes as long as a G10, and #2 -- it needs to put out high quality images. I've almost jumped for the G1X, and the M seems destined to produce even higher grade images. ...Show more →
You already have better options if I remember correctly, and if this is true, it should refocus your thoughts..
This camera is perfect for my needs. It will basically replace my iPhone 4S as my go to camera when I'm not working.
I love the compact size, APC sensor, iPhone type ultra high quality LCD, and my favorite, the compact and fast 22mm F/2 lens.
I'm glad they decided not to offer a crappy (like all current EXF) EVF viewfinder. Current compact camera's with EVF remind me of first generation AF cameras that were virtually worthless for autofocus.
Hopefully the fact that canon chose the bigger sensor will push someone to differentiate themselves by going FF (at a reasonable price). At the very least it might get Sony to wake up and put out some interesting lenses for the NEX (though what I really lust for is the FF look in a NEX-size package... just can't come close to affording an M9). Competition is definitely a good thing!
wouldn't an Olympus E-PM1 with Panasonic 20/1.7 be even better? Lot cheaper, faster, smaller, probably better lens and IBIS... just thinking out loud.
joeisayo wrote:
This camera is perfect for my needs. It will basically replace my iPhone 4S as my go to camera when I'm not working.
I love the compact size, APC sensor, iPhone type ultra high quality LCD, and my favorite, the compact and fast 22mm F/2 lens.
I'm glad they decided not to offer a crappy (like all current EXF) EVF viewfinder. Current compact camera's with EVF remind me of first generation AF cameras that were virtually worthless for autofocus.
mh2000 wrote:
wouldn't an Olympus E-PM1 with Panasonic 20/1.7 be even better? Lot cheaper, faster, smaller, probably better lens and IBIS... just thinking out loud.
Not really. I want the bigger sensor and the iPhone type lcd. Simple yet high quality. I have plenty of sophisticated cameras that I use everyday for more serious work.
Seems like a typical, conservatively designed and specified Canon product. Not much of interest to me in it, but I'm sure they'll sell oodles to all the folks who eat up anything with a Canon logo on it. I'm not sure why anyone else would choose it over the competition.
joeisayo wrote:
This camera is perfect for my needs. It will basically replace my iPhone 4S as my go to camera when I'm not working.
I love the compact size, APC sensor, iPhone type ultra high quality LCD, and my favorite, the compact and fast 22mm F/2 lens.
I'm glad they decided not to offer a crappy (like all current EXF) EVF viewfinder. Current compact camera's with EVF remind me of first generation AF cameras that were virtually worthless for autofocus.
If I'd wanted a camera to replace my smartphone I'd choose the RX100.
I dunno, I only recall two or three people saying that they were personally interested. The rest were arguing about whether or not it is interesting to others
flashinm wrote:
This camera seems really boring. I'm surprised that there's 16 pages worth of discussion, but I guess that shows that canon is doing something right.
Canon is the 800lb gorilla, like it or not. So of course anyone interested in cameras, and in mirrorless in particular, is going to be interested in seeing what Canon brings to the table regardless of whether or not they are actually interested in buying the product.
itai195 wrote:
Canon is the 800lb gorilla, like it or not. So of course anyone interested in cameras, and in mirrorless in particular, is going to be interested in seeing what Canon brings to the table regardless of whether or not they are actually interested in buying the product.
Yep, and also because Canon was the last big camera maker to play their mirrorless hand, so there's been a lot of speculation.
Would have been more excited if it was a interchangeable lens system in a G1X body, possibly without the useless viewfinder.
The more I look at it and read about it the more it feels like a tepid release. Its one thing to disregard the competition, another to disregard another product you've released.
