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Tom K. wrote:
What? You sold your 50 f/1.2? Gary.....you are the guru of the 50mm. What 50 are you using now?


Yeah, crazy huh?

I'm going through another of my "less is more" phases... Making do with my (sharp / good) EF 50 1.4 until I decide what's next.

(Honestly tempted by a D800 and Nikon's new 'G' primes, but every time I have tried Nikon in the past I keep coming back to Canon.)

But, here's a tribute to my 50L :

http://www.vothphoto.com/files/personal/fm/examples/Voth-110811-0598-2.jpg



May 22, 2012 at 12:40 PM
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p.2 #2 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


I would have thought this would almost certainly be being made for the front of the new canon mirrorless.


May 22, 2012 at 12:49 PM
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p.2 #3 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


Richie S wrote:
I would have thought this would almost certainly be being made for the front of the new canon mirrorless.


That makes sense...



May 22, 2012 at 12:59 PM
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p.2 #4 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


Why only f/2.8? If Panasonic can make a normal f/1.7 pancake lens, Canon should be able to also...


May 22, 2012 at 01:01 PM
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p.2 #5 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


Access wrote:
Why only f/2.8? If Panasonic can make a normal f/1.7 pancake lens, Canon should be able to also...


Panasonic's lens doesn't need to cover a full 35mm frame. It only covers micro 4/3rds.



May 22, 2012 at 01:08 PM
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But the mount and every other piece is also larger, so you'd think they could just scale it, it's all just a matter of scale isn't it? I mean the Canon pancake can be twice the size of the Panasonic and still be considered a pancake.


May 22, 2012 at 01:17 PM
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p.2 #7 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


deepbluejh wrote:
40/2.8 --> $280 (?)
50/1.8 --> $125

Given the 50's size, weight, and price, the 40/2.8 makes for a difficult sell.


Agreed. I tried the voigtlander 40 2.0 out but it was as heavy, if not heavier than my 35 2.0 and the canon was quite a bit less expensive.



May 22, 2012 at 01:19 PM
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corndog wrote:
Yeah, absolutely ridiculous lens. Now, if they made a 42mm f/3.2 for $285, that would be out of control awesome!!


+100

those 2mm will allow for the enough reach for printing true 300ppi 13x19"s from the 5D3 while being able to maintain a safe distance from certain types of wildlife such as the cast of the Jersey Shore and the f/3.2 will prevent accidentally hitting f/2.8 and having your retinas get blow out by sun glinting off of body oil.



May 22, 2012 at 01:29 PM
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twistedlim wrote:
Agreed. I tried the voigtlander 40 2.0 out but it was as heavy, if not heavier than my 35 2.0 and the canon was quite a bit less expensive.


The official weight of the Ultron 40 SL II is 200g, but the EF mount version really weighs 230g without caps and the tiny hood.

If the optical quality of a 40 mm f/2.8 comes out better than the Ultron 40 (not an easy task for a pancake lens) and Canon releases an interesting camera for it, I may give it a chance.



May 22, 2012 at 03:38 PM
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p.2 #10 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


The 40 f/2.8 may actually be for the soon-to-be announced mirrorless camera. June is supposed to see announcements of 650D/T4i and mirrorless cameras. Pancake would make more sense for a CSC.


May 22, 2012 at 07:12 PM
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p.2 #11 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


alundeb wrote:
The official weight of the Ultron 40 SL II is 200g, but the EF mount version really weighs 230g without caps and the tiny hood.


My Ultron weighs 215g with a Leitax mount. My Tessar weighs 115g with a generic adapter.



May 23, 2012 at 05:29 AM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
The 40 f/2.8 may actually be for the soon-to-be announced mirrorless camera. June is supposed to see announcements of 650D/T4i and mirrorless cameras. Pancake would make more sense for a CSC.


That sounds likely. Since the focal length and aperture would make most sense with a FF sensor, I find it hard to put faith in though, as a FF mirrorless sounds too good to be true.



May 23, 2012 at 05:45 AM
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p.2 #13 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


jcolwell wrote:
My Ultron weighs 215g with a Leitax mount. My Tessar weighs 115g with a generic adapter.


What version is your Leitax mount lens based on? Does it have electronic aperture?



May 23, 2012 at 05:47 AM
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p.2 #14 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


It's a simple, mechanical Nikon G to EOS mount kit. No electronic aperture, no focus confirmation chip, http://www.leitax.com/Nikon-lens-for-Canon-cameras.html


May 23, 2012 at 06:06 AM
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p.2 #15 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


EF means AF, right? Autofocus?

If it's an AF Canon lens the size of the Pan or comparable Oly, all in. Probably a modern Canonet style body on the way too.



May 23, 2012 at 08:24 AM
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p.2 #16 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


outlawyer wrote:
EF means AF, right? Autofocus?

If it's an AF Canon lens the size of the Pan or comparable Oly, all in. Probably a modern Canonet style body on the way too.


EF stands for "electro focus", so it's safe to assume it's an AF lens.

If this is for the new mirrorless camera, then it becomes very interesting because it seems to imply that it will have an EF mount - which would make other canon lenses directly compatible.



May 23, 2012 at 10:14 AM
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p.2 #17 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


alundeb wrote:
That sounds likely. Since the focal length and aperture would make most sense with a FF sensor, I find it hard to put faith in though, as a FF mirrorless sounds too good to be true.


We won't see a FF mirrorless, it'll be the same sensor as the G1X IMO, which is a around a 1.8x crop, so this would be a 72mm FF equivalent.

If it is a native EF lens, it seems a rather weird FL and rather slow.



May 23, 2012 at 05:53 PM
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p.2 #18 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


I bought the Nikkor 45mm f/2.8 P with the Nikon FM3A in 2001. It was the last mechanical camera designed by Nikon and was a minor update of the early 80s FE2. The pancake kit lens was cute and matched the camera finish. It was good optically by F4 but too slow for a prime. Kind of a PITA to focus manually (too small). I still own the FM3A but I replaced the pancake 10 years ago with the Nikkor 50 1.4 AIS. I'd never buy a pancake for my EOS although I love primes as long as they're fast and sharp. A tiny lens on huge body is kinda silly. Makes sense on a 4/3 body as it slims it down enough to fit a coat pocket. I wear one on my E-P3.



May 23, 2012 at 06:39 PM
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p.2 #19 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


Ah, "electro focus." Never knew that!


May 23, 2012 at 09:06 PM
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p.2 #20 · cr3: canon to release 40mm f/2.8 pancake


I actually love the 40mm focal length for walk around, and historically it was a fairly common focal length back in the day (on full frame 135 film cameras). I actually love my current Ultron on my 5D for those times when I want the kit as small as possible. Keep it the same size and add autofocus, and I'm interested, although losing a stop vs. the Voigtlander is too bad.


May 23, 2012 at 11:15 PM
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