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FlyPenFly wrote:
Developing in my small Manhattan apartment will unfortunately be impossible.


Hmmm? It's B&W, not C41 or E6. If you have a kitchen sink you can develop B&W negs. Actually a small bathroom sink is sufficient. You don't even need a darkroom, just a changing bag to load the reels - or load them at night in your closet.

Tanks, reels etc. are practically free these days. People can't give them away.

Ken

P.S. If you are in NY though you should have lots of options for people willing to develop if you give them enough money.



May 15, 2012 at 06:56 PM
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p.2 #2 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


send it to ncps or precision cam. not sure if lti in manhattan scans.




May 15, 2012 at 06:59 PM
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p.2 #3 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


kwalsh wrote:
Hmmm? It's B&W, not C41 or E6. If you have a kitchen sink you can develop B&W negs. Actually a small bathroom sink is sufficient. You don't even need a darkroom, just a changing bag to load the reels - or load them at night in your closet.

Tanks, reels etc. are practically free these days. People can't give them away.

Ken

P.S. If you are in NY though you should have lots of options for people willing to develop if you give them enough money.


Indeed, I do all my own B&W in my 1 bedroom apartment, I'm even setup to wet print up to 11x14, although I almost never do wet prints.



May 15, 2012 at 07:17 PM
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p.2 #4 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


Oh, I should note that if the FE2's too much money the plain FE offers essentially the same capabilities as an OM2 for lower cost than an FE2, plus it retains the ability to take the FM3a screens for a nice viewfinder upgrade and can use non-AI lenses. The FE2 adds a much more capable shutter than either the OM2 or the FE.

Personally I'd be looking at an FE or FE2 with a 50/2, you should be able to source one on CL for no more than $150 complete for a chrome body (black is usually more expensive) (well, really I'd be getting an FM or FM2, I prefer them to the FE series. In fact my current kit for film shooting is that pair of bodies plus a 28/3.5, 50/1.8E and 105/2.5)




May 15, 2012 at 07:20 PM
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p.2 #5 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


I've been wanting to see what the ZF's are like with film (and street) for ages and have been playing with a loan F3.



but am buying a F801s (n8008s). I did buy an F5 but the thing is too heavy to carry as a 2nd body.
I have the room but only use the sink. Changing bag/developing tank and reels/hose/squegee/thermometer/clips/sleeves/bottles/ shelf in the fridge and a bucket load of fun.

The illness is at full term and I'm only just at the beginning and scanning is nice for sharing but I want the pics for me (greedy me) and will setup for printing.

I once said to myself that if I went to film it would be mf but I think I'll stay in 35mm.

You are in for some fun Fly




May 15, 2012 at 08:19 PM
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p.2 #6 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


I can't wait. I'm still going through my Costa Rica photos and maybe I'm getting digital burn out spending all my time in Lightroom



May 15, 2012 at 08:36 PM
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p.2 #7 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


FlyPenFly wrote:
I can't wait. I'm still going through my Costa Rica photos and maybe I'm getting digital burn out spending all my time in Lightroom


That'll happen... but unfortunately you'll never be free of LR (for cataloging scans, etc)...



May 15, 2012 at 08:54 PM
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p.2 #8 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


Not a cheap..

..but R6.2 + 50mm F2?

That thing has loads of character and its quite basic/complex.

Otherwise I would go with Oly probably, just cause its lighter and looks much better (yea that isnt that important in real life, but..).



May 15, 2012 at 09:03 PM
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p.2 #9 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


If you're going back to basics, I suggest:

OM-1n (greater and sweet VF) + 50/1.8 MiJ ($100, fleabay #390419501772)
Zuiko 28/3.5 ($40, fleabay #200758030112)
Zuiko 135/3.5 ($35, fleabay #120915231416)

add shipping and taxes and this kit should be around $200.

If you do insist on Zuiko 50/1.4, there's one for $40 (fleabay #270978665611)



May 15, 2012 at 09:20 PM
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corposant wrote:
That'll happen... but unfortunately you'll never be free of LR (for cataloging scans, etc)...


I do all my film post-processing in LR, I think it's actually better for working with scanned film than for digital.



May 16, 2012 at 07:10 AM
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p.2 #11 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


Consider also that the F3 has a pretty loud shutter. Louder than the OM 2n. So, for street photography the OM is better. The Nikon, however, takes one of my favorite 50's of all time, the Nikkor 50mm f/2. It has the special rendering you're looking for, and is inexplicably inexpensive. but rather than the F3, I'd echo the recommendations for an FE, FE2 or even an FA. Now that has a bright viewfinder and a quiet shutter!


May 16, 2012 at 11:37 AM
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p.2 #12 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


It should be no problem for you to develop B&W in your apartment. You can load the reels in a changing bag, mix the chemicals and develop in your bathroom. That's what I did when I used to shoot B&W. I don't anymore and sold most of my stuff including an OM-2n and 28/3.5 to a friend who was taking a B&W class at school for dirt cheap. I still have a tank and a couple of reels if you are interested.

It's not particularly difficult to develop B&W on your own but I can understand if you don't want to deal with storing all that stuff at home, apartments around here can be tiny. The few labs that do B&W are quite expensive. Another option to consider is taking a class at FIT or some other local photography school for darkroom access.



May 16, 2012 at 11:50 AM
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p.2 #13 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


I have owned nearly every Olympus OM body, as well as about 12 - 13 different OM lenses, including a lot of the fast and expensive lenses. I have also used quite a few Nikon bodies and Nikon lenses. My only film body currently is a Nikon FM with a 35/2, 50/2 and 105/2.5 lenses. I love the simplicity of the Nikon, and the lenses are farily cheap and digital compatible. I like the Nikon system better for simplicity, reliability, digital compatibility, availability, etc.

But if you want a beautiful, gem like camera, I don't think anything is nicer to use or hold than a black OM-1 or OM-2. The OM-2sp is a great camera as well. I loved the 24/2, 28/2, 50/1.4 and 100/2.8 lenses. (I look back at old images and the 28/2 was incredible for b/w for some reason.) Find the 50/2 Olympus macro if you can. Supposed to be one of the best 50mm lenses ever......

Hope this helps.



May 16, 2012 at 12:03 PM
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Also, for what you want, go with the older single coated Olympus optics. I think they have more character than the newer multi-coated Olympus lenses. I owned the Olympus 100/2, which was one of their newest, most expensive lenses at the time.... and I liked the results from an old 100/2.8 single coated lens better.


May 16, 2012 at 12:04 PM
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p.2 #15 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


FlyPenFly wrote:
Developing in my small Manhattan apartment will unfortunately be impossible.


I don't think shooting film makes any sense then .



May 16, 2012 at 01:56 PM
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p.2 #16 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


If you have a Walmart near you, they send their film out to Miller Photo Lab and you don't have to pay postage either way.


May 16, 2012 at 02:09 PM
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p.2 #17 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


Tomser wrote:
I don't think shooting film makes any sense then .


Of course it does.



May 16, 2012 at 02:13 PM
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p.2 #18 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


I had several Olympus bodies and lenses in the early 90s, just before I switched to Contax. The lenses may underperform on digital, but they work very well with film. You will love the size, weight, huge bright VF, and the shutter dial on the lens mount.


May 16, 2012 at 02:14 PM
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p.2 #19 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


I'd choose the Olympus, just because it's smaller. But if you want a Nikon, get a smaller one like an FM2 or FE2 instead of the F3.

Lens-wise I'd take a sharp 50/1.8 or 50/2 over most 50/1.4 versions, regardless of brand. They generally have nicer bokeh, lower distortion and the difference in sharpness doesn't matter that much on film.

And of course I'd develop at home. It takes 15 minutes per film or so and costs close to nothing. Scanning is the worst part of the hybrid workflow, but the prices for getting film developed and scanned with decent quality is ridiculous, at least over here in Europe, and you'll probably spend less money over time doing it yourself if you get a scanner of your own.



May 16, 2012 at 02:25 PM
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p.2 #20 · Nikon F3 vs Olympus OM2 - 50mm F1.4


edwardkaraa wrote:
I had several Olympus bodies and lenses in the early 90s, just before I switched to Contax.



Same here.


edwardkaraa wrote:
You will love the size, weight, huge bright VF, and the shutter dial on the lens mount.



Indeed. You won't be disappointed by an Olympus OM-1, OM-2, OM-3 or OM-4.




May 16, 2012 at 02:44 PM
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