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Archive 2012 · Sony A900/850 users jumped ship to Nikon D 800/E?

  
 
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p.5 #1 · Sony A900/850 users jumped ship to Nikon D 800/E?


dasrocket wrote:
While I wholeheartedly agree with your choice, Edward, reading this part of the sentence made me laugh..


Now that you mentioned it ...



May 14, 2012 at 09:36 PM
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p.5 #2 · Sony A900/850 users jumped ship to Nikon D 800/E?


Mescalamba wrote:
I might be wrong but I think 5D and 5DMK2 uses same AA filter or very similar, theres just that mpix difference.


I can't imagine that would be the case; it wouldn't make sense at all because the cut-off frequency would be way too low.



May 14, 2012 at 11:07 PM
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p.5 #3 · Sony A900/850 users jumped ship to Nikon D 800/E?


AhamB wrote:
I can't imagine that would be the case; it wouldn't make sense at all because the cut-off frequency would be way too low.


I also went from the Canon 5D to the a900 and my experience led me to strongly suspect that the 5D "classic" used a very weak AA filter. Per pixel detail was very high and moiré was very easy to induce. While I much preferred the files from the a900, the per pixel detail was not at the 5D "classic" level and moire was pretty much non existent by comparison. 5DII files do not have the per pixel detail of the 5D "classic" which would lead me to believe the AA filter is stronger.



May 15, 2012 at 07:01 AM
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p.5 #4 · Sony A900/850 users jumped ship to Nikon D 800/E?


Aehm if you stick same strenght of AA on same size of sensor with very different size of cells, dont you think effect will be much less on bigger cells?


May 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM
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p.5 #5 · Sony A900/850 users jumped ship to Nikon D 800/E?


Mescalamba wrote:
Aehm if you stick same strenght of AA on same size of sensor with very different size of cells, dont you think effect will be much less on bigger cells?


It will be indeed as your Nyquist rate on the lower-resolution sensor will be lower



May 15, 2012 at 05:28 PM
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p.5 #6 · Sony A900/850 users jumped ship to Nikon D 800/E?


AA filter strength is for practical use measured as "perpendicular AA spread width divided by pixel pitch". That is, the amount of spread a ray hitting the sensor head on gets (in µm) divided the pixel size (also in µm). And BTW - there is no such thing as a sharp cutoff at Nyquist, especially not regarding AA filters. Firstly, no point in object space (the target) is infinitely small - and secondly, we're looking at a lossy optical system here, not a mathematical model. If the pixels in modern cameras were 30-40µm big, then the mathematical model might have been applicable. With 4-5-6µm pixels, it's not. The losses in the other parts of the system is to big.

Mescalamba might be partly right about the 5D vs 5Dmk2, the pixel pitch difference isn't that big.
sqrt(21MP) / sqrt (13MP) = 1.27 >>> If you use the 5Dmk1 filter on the 5Dmk2, the pixel array (and the raw interpolation) would see the filter as "27% stronger per pixel". Not a VERY big difference, though I actually think the difference in reality might be slightly less than that.



May 15, 2012 at 05:40 PM
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p.5 #7 · Sony A900/850 users jumped ship to Nikon D 800/E?


Already owning an a850, I just bought a used a900 and plan on getting every last drop out of the both of them.


May 17, 2012 at 12:03 AM
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p.5 #8 · Sony A900/850 users jumped ship to Nikon D 800/E?


ArtisticShapes wrote:
Already owning an a850, I just bought a used a900 and plan on getting every last drop out of the both of them.


Pure envy here.



May 17, 2012 at 01:10 PM
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