I live around the corner from you. Give me the files and have the client contact me. I'll make babies in heaven cry and put $$$ in the bank.
The reason why so many wedding photographers are going belly up is because they are artist first when we should be a business person first. If selective color pays the bills then selective color it is.
That's OK Brian. The total order turned out to be a $400 profit for me. Thanks though. You're around the corner from me? Are you new? I haven't heard of you before. I briefly checked out your site. Nice work though.
The show worked out good. I plan on going back there at some point, just need to find the time. I signed up here this year when I sold my Canon gear and switched to Nikon. Me and Canon just didn't see eye to eye after 4 years. This forum is great. Before this I mostly hung out on POTN which is a great place too.
BriMcD wrote:
The show worked out good. I plan on going back there at some point, just need to find the time. I signed up here this year when I sold my Canon gear and switched to Nikon. Me and Canon just didn't see eye to eye after 4 years. This forum is great. Before this I mostly hung out on POTN which is a great place too.
Cool. Well nice to see you here. I'm skipping the one in July because I'm focusing on my iSIT kiosk and will be working that at the show. Let me know if you need anything.
In fact the more I hear from our US cousins, the more I like the sound of relocationg my family, home and business to the US, but I guess you guys probably make it tougher for immigrants to get into your country than we do here in the UK, where we let in just about anyone?
I believe both countries have special rules that make entry easier for immigrants from former colonies. The US just had a lot fewer colonies.
MarcAnthony wrote:
I'm cringing at the thought of doing this. A bride contacted me wanting me to do two photos with selective coloring at a size of 20x30 for each one. I am half tempted to tell her that I will have to put a disclaimer at the bottom of the photo stating this effect was done with the photographers disapproval. Doesn't she know that every time a photographer does selective coloring babies in heaven cry?
Do more modern selective coloring. First select the desired areas and put them on a separate top layer. Then severely desaturate--but do not totally eliminate--the overall color of the main image. Then tint the image (warm or cool, your choice). Finally, reduce the opacity of the selected areas on the upper layer so that the saturation is not quite full.
RDKirk wrote:
Then tint the image (warm or cool, your choice). Finally, reduce the opacity of the selected areas on the upper layer so that the saturation is not quite full.
Neat idea! Should the upper layer be tinted, too, or just the lower layer?
dmacmillan wrote:
I wish that there was a way that anyone who disses selective coloring would have their VSCO filters automatically deleted from all their computers.
jneilosu wrote:
If wedding photography is a luxury aesthetic product (not to mention art), which we claim it to be, then just about every industry like ours enforces some form of creator control.
The thought of one of my images in selective coloring at a massive size makes me want to kill the crying babies Marc mentioned in heaven. I would kindly tell them "I don't know how to do that actually, but if you would like an unmarked hi res image to send to wherever to get it done, I'd be more than happy to! Just make sure they get credit for the edit, because I would hate to see them get upset."
RDKirk wrote:
Do more modern selective coloring. First select the desired areas and put them on a separate top layer. Then severely desaturate--but do not totally eliminate--the overall color of the main image. Then tint the image (warm or cool, your choice). Finally, reduce the opacity of the selected areas on the upper layer so that the saturation is not quite full.
Much more subtle effect and more modern looking.
Until it isn't and goes the way of all the other trends...
dmacmillan wrote:
I wish that there was a way that anyone who disses selective coloring would have their VSCO filters automatically deleted from all their computers.
+1. I love the argument that selective colour will date from people who do washed out 'vintage' processing.
Many things that once were new are now old but will be new again.
Many things that are now cool & chic will soon be old and cliched .. that's just the way it is.
Wedding photography is not immune to trends, and as much as we're convinced we're all "artists" much of todays trends will be out of date and most likely mocked in some future wedding photography forum, just as we mock selective color today. Mocked on forums and taken off the walls of your clients who are embarrassed to see themselves in those photos .. so think about that the next time you tilt / shift or flare a pic, they are trends just like selective color was once a trend.
Most all portrait (including wedding) photography that has withstood the test of time is largely free from gimmicks and processing that takes attention away from the subject.
Mike Mahoney wrote:
Many things that once were new are now old but will be new again.
Many things that are now cool & chic will soon be old and cliched .. that's just the way it is.
Wedding photography is not immune to trends, and as much as we're convinced we're all "artists" much of todays trends will be out of date and most likely mocked in some future wedding photography forum, just as we mock selective color today. Mocked on forums and taken off the walls of your clients who are embarrassed to see themselves in those photos .. so think about that the next time you tilt / shift or flare a pic, they are trends just like selective color was once a trend.
Most all portrait (including wedding) photography that has withstood the test of time is largely free from gimmicks and processing that takes attention away from the subject....Show more →
Yeah I hate selective color like the best of them... but ... isn't it absolutely HILARIOUS that so many photographers think nothing of denigrating (usually other photographers') clients who ask for selective color, which is an edit that can be made AFTER THE FACT and is not destructive to the image and in fact allows the delivery of a wonderful timeless photo that will be enjoyed long after selective color comes back in style and goes out of style again...
....meantime they are slapping on those 45 TSE lenses and delivering those atrocious portraits where the subjects' faces are in focus and the rest is out of focus... which, mind you CAN NEVER be recovered to be a timeless portrait?
... and in fact would probably denigrate a photographer who chose to simulate the T/S blurring in photoshop ... though THAT photographer can actually deliver a clean image when the "T/S portrait" finally goes out of style in 2010?
Yeah... I think that's actually pretty hilarious. Naked emperors pointing fingers at other naked emperors.
