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mikethevilla
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p.1 #1 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


Lesson of the week: Don't go for beers with Alessandro, because he'll convince you that you need a bigger, better camera.

So with the number "800" running through my mind, I'm curious what you high-megapixel folks do when it comes time to deliver high-resolution files. When I had a 5D2 I shot mostly mRaw for weddings, and portrait sessions don't include the same quantity of photos as a wedding, so reasonable delivery sizes were never really an issue for me. Shooting 12 MP Nikons for the past year and a half I haven't even had to think about it.

So what would you do (or plan to do) when delivering 36 MP files? Down res to 15 or 20 MP? Just give them fatty 36 MP jpegs?



May 07, 2012 at 03:40 AM
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p.1 #2 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


you'd have to throw in a new computer for those files, downsize, 36mp is a complete overkill for 99% of clients


May 07, 2012 at 05:40 AM
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p.1 #3 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


Downsize to 12 Megapixels.


May 07, 2012 at 07:28 AM
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p.1 #4 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


As long as they fit on the disc I don't see the point in taking extra time to downsize.


May 07, 2012 at 07:32 AM
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p.1 #5 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


That is my dilemma. Most of my clients only need files of about 1mb in size that can be emailed to them.
Currently using a D700 and still have to bin a few pixels to get that file size.
The D800 looks great, but binning the amount of pixels to get back down to 1mb means I probably won't see any difference in the image quality - clients certainly won't!

The only reason I can see me getting a D800 is because I want one, not because I need one. I have never had a client say my image files aren't of high enough quality



May 07, 2012 at 07:35 AM
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p.1 #6 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


A rather amusing dilemma. I see clients having real trouble with 10-15MB jpeg files. You know they are going to want to upload them somewhere and becoming terribly frustrating trying to do so.

I personally think a combination of compression and resolution reduction might be the ticket. You can get a 20MP file down to 2-3MB and still maintain very good quality.



May 07, 2012 at 08:20 AM
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p.1 #7 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


I export from lightroom at 4000 pixels wide. They look great.


May 07, 2012 at 08:21 AM
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p.1 #8 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


Mark_L wrote:
As long as they fit on the disc I don't see the point in taking extra time to downsize.


Is it really taking extra time to press a few more buttons to make things easier for clients?



May 07, 2012 at 08:42 AM
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p.1 #9 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


I would change nothing that I do right now.
I would set the long side for 3000 pixels at 300 ppi.
This way you are setup perfectly to print and 8x10 (the largest I let clients print themselves).
At 75% quality in LR your files sizes should be fine no matter what size file you start with.




May 07, 2012 at 08:57 AM
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p.1 #10 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


btw the D800 will blow your mind.



May 07, 2012 at 08:57 AM
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I'm not sure that there's a plausible reason to change the deliverables.

I deliver web-size files and print-size files. Print size are 12" on the long end at 300ppi. Web-sized are sized appropriately for Facebook.

wouldn't necessarily change anything with the D800

I don't buy the argument that if you're not delivering 36mp to the client then the camera is not worth the upgrade. If there's one thing I missed in the transitiion from my 5D2 to the D700 it was the ability to crop photos, sometime substantially so.

Aside from quite a few features that I'm positively STOKED about, there is one feature about the high res sensor that could in fact affect good sellers's bottom line in a very positive way. With the D700 if you wanted to you could reasonably create large environmental portraits with the suject or maybe two subjects small in the frame. With the D800 you can do that, plus you can actually do it for larger groups... family portraits for instance. The epic resolution COULD result in your being able to sell a substantiallly larger print ... again provided you have the requisite selling skills.

Not surprisingly, if I conclude that the D800 is good enough to be my ONLY camera (I currently have a D3S and still have my arsenal of D700) the new baby will be flanked by a D800E to truly exact EVERYTHING out of that sensor.

Frankly I'm totally shocked that our good friend Spencer Boerup with his AMAZING family portraiture in amazing scenery has not bought a D800E and a Nikkor lens or two to flank his Canon equipment.



May 07, 2012 at 09:14 AM
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p.1 #12 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


we deliver files capable of printing 8x10's and no bigger. we tell them up front that is what the files they will receive will print, so they are ready for it. whether I am using a 6 megapixel or 36 megapixel, that is what they get.


May 07, 2012 at 09:37 AM
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p.1 #13 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


TomHarmon wrote:
I export from lightroom at 4000 pixels wide. They look great.

This



May 07, 2012 at 09:40 AM
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p.1 #14 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


hardlyboring wrote:
btw the D800 will blow your mind.


Especially when you learn that the 5D3 is just as good

But, I deliver at 4000px wide as well.



May 07, 2012 at 10:07 AM
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p.1 #15 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


a 2x linear downsize just happens to come in around 8mp and perfect for an 8x12 print. (and they will be the best 8mp files you have ever seen)


May 07, 2012 at 10:27 AM
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p.1 #16 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


Mark_L wrote:
As long as they fit on the disc I don't see the point in taking extra time to downsize.


36mp is going to look downright UGLY at the pixel level in a few still usable shots. The client will be doing one of two things, pixel peeping, or letting some software do a scale to fit it on the screen. Some software is really really bad at scaling.

While I would not think of downsizing a 16mp file, once you get into 36+mp range, you can do a very healthy downscale which will drastically improve the image for the client, while still being big enough for an 8x10. Seems win win to me.



May 07, 2012 at 10:56 AM
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p.1 #17 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


lisy78 wrote:
Frankly I'm totally shocked that our good friend Spencer Boerup with his AMAZING family portraiture in amazing scenery has not bought a D800E and a Nikkor lens or two to flank his Canon equipment.


I think he did.



May 07, 2012 at 11:02 AM
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p.1 #18 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


Don't forget many clients would just simply upload your high-res file at Costco. And guess what these big box photo stores will puke at large files.


May 07, 2012 at 11:26 AM
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p.1 #19 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


Seems like most of you guys are thinking along the same lines. Good to hear.


May 07, 2012 at 11:31 AM
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p.1 #20 · 30+ MP Delivery File Size?


LivLif wrote:
I think he did.


This is true. I also sold it already Mini review coming.



May 07, 2012 at 11:32 AM
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