p.6 #1 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
If all I'd care are old MF lenses I'd be very happy with such a platform but alas, this is not the case. I like a wide variety of AF lenses as well in my system thank you very much. In fact, this is the main reason I am in Canon and when I do get into MILC it is likely that I'll choose MFT for this exact reason.
p.6 #2 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
gobears wrote:
+1
Fully agree.
That would be my dream setup.
Put the D800E sensor in an NEX, not too much bigger than an NEX 7, with IBIS, and I would immediately purchase it up to $3500.
With that setup, I could use all my Contax-G, Contax-CY and Leica R lenses to their full advantage.
p.6 #3 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
Lars Johnsson wrote:
By weaker I don't talk about the power of the light. I talk about the all the flash options. How many different options in macro and ring flashes do NEX have compared to DSLRs.
it's no point going back and forth about which camera that is best here. IMO the NEX bodies are nice cameras. But it's a camera you choose because of size/weight instead of an DSLR. Not because it has better IQ or flexibility............
The NEXen, well at least the 7, has access to every lighting and flash option that a Sony DSLR or SLT has with the sole exception that it needs an external flash to command wirelessly (which the A mount cameras do not aside from the A900/A850).
Functionally you aren't debating SLR vs NEX, but Alpha vs Canon/Nikon. And here, Nikon wins by a mile (Canon is comparable to Sony IMHO, both have fairly weak macro lighting options in their lineup, but access to better 3rd party options. Sony's LED ring light is a real gem for cheap & simple, if not as powerful as one might like. Note it works just fine on any system, it is not Alpha-specific).
And I regularly take my NEX-7 out for stuff that I used to use DSLR's for, because it does have better flexibility and IQ (best low-ISO IQ of any APS-C option right now, I'm not sold on the X Pro1's IQ), including the ability to be compatible with multiple SLR systems (I have three different NEX carry kits, based around pure Alpha, a Nikon+NEX setup and a Bessa R+NEX setup). Frankly for Macro or near-macro work I wouldn't even consider a DSLR at this point, with both NEX or an SLT being my tool of choice.
p.6 #5 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
mawz wrote:
Frankly for Macro or near-macro work I wouldn't even consider a DSLR at this point, with both NEX or an SLT being my tool of choice.
I would prefer any good DSLR over the NEX for macro or close up work. A Nikon D800 or a Canon 5D III with all their accesories is a dream for that. So it the older 5D II and many other DSLRs
p.6 #6 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
^^ too each their own. some value usability, others a very particular workflow, some absolute image quality, and others the ability to use as many options as possible whether they will ever use them or not.
p.6 #7 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
mawz wrote:
Functionally you aren't debating SLR vs NEX, but Alpha vs Canon/Nikon. And here, Nikon wins by a mile (Canon is comparable to Sony IMHO, both have fairly weak macro lighting options in their lineup, but access to better 3rd party options. Sony's LED ring light is a real gem for cheap & simple, if not as powerful as one might like. Note it works just fine on any system, it is not Alpha-specific).
Canon macro lighting weak? I was under the impression that even Nikon owners thought the Canon Twin Lite MT-24EX to be superior to Nikon's similar macro flash. Also, I practically never see good macro shots taken with the help of a ring flash -- nearly always a twin flash (often the MT-24ex or some other solution with a flash bracket to have a flash further away from the camera) with customized diffusers.
p.6 #8 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
wfrank wrote:
Why is that? I've seen claims that the CY version should top the 35/1.4 distagon series, ie over the ZE/ZFs etc (havent seen "proof" though). I thought the Rollei version the one with less good coating (HFT) and the triangular aperture/bokeh thing?
I don't know about CY vs Rollei - it's a disputed subject. However the register distance on Nikon is from what I understand too short for either to be mounted. The new 35/1.4 ZE/ZF is a nice lens and all, but it's not the same as the old one which is truly special.
p.6 #9 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
i dont have it anymore,
but the best lens i ever did have in my hands
was the Contax 35mm 1,4.
If only one cam with one lens i would choose a 5D with this lens.
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p.6 #10 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
AhamB wrote:
Canon macro lighting weak? I was under the impression that even Nikon owners thought the Canon Twin Lite MT-24EX to be superior to Nikon's similar macro flash. Also, I practically never see good macro shots taken with the help of a ring flash -- nearly always a twin flash (often the MT-24ex or some other solution with a flash bracket to have a flash further away from the camera) with customized diffusers.
To say that the Canon is similar to the Sony or NEX is not true. Canon have both the ring-lite and twin-lite flashes. The Twin-lite MT24 EX is a strong macro flash (like AhamB wrote). And even allows Wireless E-TTL flash control with one or more 550EX and/or 420EX as slave units, if you need more light. And a lot more options with other Canon flashes than you will have with NEX & Sony, if you like something else than the ring or twin flashes
p.6 #11 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
Hmmm, I's always thought that any configuration conceivable is possible with all camera models - including P&S cameras with no flash communication at all. I see rigging and devices from 3rd party manufacturers that do as much or more than anything you can achieve from system specific options.
Is that not true?
And if it's true doesn't that make this discussion academic only to how serious and supportive manufacturers are? Or was that the point?
p.6 #12 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
Antje wrote:
Same here - no way I would ever switch. Until someone else came out with a better MP-E.
Antje
I've been interested in that lens. No chance that you macro guys know of any image thread here or elsewhere that could give some inspiration to lighten the wallet?
p.6 #14 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
Thanks Carsten, appreciated. Did not find much of aesthetic value though.
This guy knows what he's doing - and I know he's normally using some elaborate kit for focus stacking. But in this film he's doing it with MP-E and even handheld some times (!). Be sure not to miss the liquid stabilizer.
p.6 #15 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
Yeah, that thread is not full of superstars, but I think some of the shots do show what the lens is capable of, on a technical level. Especially for you, I will also add that this is a lens I wish Nikon would copy
That guy has some pretty amazing stuff. The ant portrait is stunning.
p.6 #16 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
Well I tried some lenses before and here's my pick: (not 3rd party lenses)
For Canon: 135L
For Nikon: well not a lens, it's the D800/E, if I must take a lens then probably it's the 85/1.4D.
For Sony: 24/2
For Sony Nex: 24/1.8
Why haven't Nikon release an 135G yet?
p.6 #17 · What ONE lens would make you consider a platform change ???
Lars Johnsson wrote:
To say that the Canon is similar to the Sony or NEX is not true. Canon have both the ring-lite and twin-lite flashes. The Twin-lite MT24 EX is a strong macro flash (like AhamB wrote). And even allows Wireless E-TTL flash control with one or more 550EX and/or 420EX as slave units, if you need more light. And a lot more options with other Canon flashes than you will have with NEX & Sony, if you like something else than the ring or twin flashes
Sony offers both ring light and twin flashes as well, albeit their ring light is an inexpensive LED unit. and all the wireless toys too as well as a very functional wired off-camera system for set-piece setups. And of course you have the third party stuff.
The Canon and Sony flash systems are quite comparable in overall capability, it's one of the few areas that Sony actually offers a comparable selection in options to CaNikon. Neither offers the flexibility of Nikon's i-TTL and CLS though.
