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Archive 2012 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?

  
 
Lars Johnsson
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p.3 #1 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


jasonsim wrote:
I do not think the 85L is that jittery. I don't think I've even tried my 85L on the 5D III yet.

Here's a sample with the 85mm f/1.2L II on a 5D Mark II that I took a few months ago.


But shot with the same tree background as the 50. And then nearly every lens can have a jittery blur/bokeh from a certain distance. The 50 with the same background as your 85 shot would also look good



Apr 23, 2012 at 02:30 PM
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Todd Klassy wrote:
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Personally, I wish there was a way to make the Leica 50mm f/0.95 work on a Canon camera. As far as I am concerned, it is the 50mm lens with "the most pleasing bokeh."


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Apr 23, 2012 at 02:40 PM
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Lars Johnsson wrote:
But shot with the same tree background as the 50. And then nearly every lens can have a jittery blur/bokeh from a certain distance. The 50 with the same background as your 85 shot would also look good


+1

Under the right conditions any lens can produce harsh bokeh, even a 200 f/2.



Apr 23, 2012 at 06:14 PM
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p.3 #4 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


the sigma looks more pleasing to me?


Apr 23, 2012 at 06:30 PM
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p.3 #5 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


The Sigma has smoother bokeh and nice color compared to the 1.2 L. I used the Sigma on a 5D2 but sold it because i found something even more bokehlichious @ 50mm.


Apr 23, 2012 at 06:33 PM
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p.3 #6 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


do not like the bokeh of the 50 1.0 or the 50 1.2,eeek,my eyes


Apr 23, 2012 at 07:39 PM
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p.3 #7 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


jasonsim wrote:
Canon 50mm f/1.2L:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4154/5203267136_653fce42e9_z.jpg


Lookin' a little rough there.



Apr 23, 2012 at 08:45 PM
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Lars Johnsson wrote:
But shot with the same tree background as the 50. And then nearly every lens can have a jittery blur/bokeh from a certain distance. The 50 with the same background as your 85 shot would also look good


Yup. That's why I asked for direct side-by-side comparison shots. So far, I have yet to see any (particularly with busy trees in the background.)



Apr 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM
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p.3 #9 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


Fr3d wrote:
I used the Sigma on a 5D2 but sold it because i found something even more bokehlichious @ 50mm.


Which lens did you find more bokehlichious @50mm?



Apr 23, 2012 at 10:35 PM
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p.3 #10 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


There are lots of comparisons b/t these two lenses. Here's one:

Sigma 50 vs 50L

Personally from the many threads comparing the two, it left me feeling that the Canon 50L is not 3x or 4x the price of the Sigma 50mm when in some areas the Sigma is actually better.



Apr 24, 2012 at 01:17 AM
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p.3 #11 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


Yes. IMO, OP's third shot with the jittery bokeh is not f/1.4 - f/1.8, but more like f/4.


Apr 24, 2012 at 08:40 AM
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p.3 #12 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


Tom K. wrote:
Which lens did you find more bokehlichious @50mm?


I like the 50mm f/1.0 more, but I also like the Zeiss MP. However I wished there was an EF 55mm f/1.2 Takumar available these days, the PK-MF version has stellar bokeh as you can see in a current 50mm thread in the alt forum.



Apr 24, 2012 at 10:56 AM
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p.3 #13 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


jasonsim wrote:
My third shot was at f/1.2 actually.



I am amazed. Even at a subject distance of 15 feet, at 50mm f/1.2, the Depth of field is from 14.1-16 feet and the background should be nicely blurred out. Or so I thought
I'll have to experiment with my 50L now, and also look at my shots, perhaps I've never done f/1.2 or so with a subject at that distance.



Apr 24, 2012 at 11:22 AM
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p.3 #14 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


tbh i can't believe this thread is still going.. i sold my Sigma 50 after 3 weeks because I just couldn't rely on it for event coverage or even simple studio shooting.. a few months later, had a chance to play with my colleague's "awesome, perfectly focusing" Sigma 50 for a few hours on two 1-series bodies - same story. sorry, I'd be the first to admit possible user error, but my issues with this lens had nothing to do with that. tried super hard to "enjoy" the lens, even tried to tell myself the warmer Sigma cast could be edited out.. but, ~10% randomly OOF images just isn't acceptable to me + this sums it up:

deepbluejh wrote:
I wouldn't touch the sigma 50 with a 10' pole - even if it was someone else's 10' pole.

My 50L has been absolutely flawless in the four years I've used it. No fuss, no inconsistency, no front focus, no back focus. Perfect on all of my bodies. That alone is worth the price premium over the Sigma.



Apr 24, 2012 at 11:38 AM
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p.3 #15 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


Just a question: on the 5D2, the EXIF data includes "Subject Distance".
e.g., as seen on flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/macgupta/6961947570/meta/in/set-72157629513834730

Subject Distance 15.4 m

Is this missing from the 5D3?



PS: e.g., in Pixel Perfect's 3 photographs above, the subject distances are 0.84m, 1.05m and 0.79m.



Apr 24, 2012 at 11:39 AM
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p.3 #16 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


Arun Gupta wrote:
Just a question: on the 5D2, the EXIF data includes "Subject Distance".
e.g., as seen on flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/macgupta/6961947570/meta/in/set-72157629513834730

Subject Distance 15.4 m

Is this missing from the 5D3?



PS: e.g., in Pixel Perfect's 3 photographs above, the subject distances are 0.84m, 1.05m and 0.79m.


Focus distance in the EXIF was 5.28 meters:

Approximate Focus Distance 5.28



Apr 24, 2012 at 04:10 PM
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p.3 #17 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


Pleasing bokeh is subjective!

The best 50mm for Canon probably doesn't have autofocus.



Apr 24, 2012 at 05:03 PM
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p.3 #18 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


form wrote:
Pleasing bokeh is subjective!

The best 50mm for Canon probably doesn't have autofocus.


And what lens is that



Apr 24, 2012 at 05:06 PM
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p.3 #19 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


Probably some Leica or Zeiss.

http://flickriver.com/lenses/leica/leicanoctilux50mmf0.95asph/

http://flickriver.com/lenses/leica/leicanoctilux50mmf1.0/

I think the f/1.0 bokeh is pretty to-die-for good...but very subjectively so because it has extremely distinct highlight style that would make it "noisy" to some.



Apr 24, 2012 at 05:14 PM
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p.3 #20 · Which 50mm yields the most pleasing bokeh?


a little off topic, but is the sigma 1.4 better than the canon 1.4?

I was thinking of stepping up from my 1.8 mk I but not sure if should bother and if so which one to get. The L is out for cost reasons for now unless I start shooting @50mm a lot more often.



Apr 24, 2012 at 05:39 PM
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