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p.1 #1 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


Hi folks,
My current setup does not give me the reach I crave, having solely a 35mm and 85mm lens on my crop body. I have an 80-200 f4 for my old Canon AE1, but am not going to adapt it to my Nikon F mount.

Nikon D3000:
Nikon 35mm f1.8 G
Rokinon 85mm f1.4

Canon AE1 film:
Canon FD 50mm f1.4
Canon 80-200 f4
Canon 24mm f2.8

As a budget-crunched master's student, I currently don't have the money to spend on an 80-200 AF-S like I would want. With the plethora of glass out there, I'm simply at a loss as to what to purchase, on a budget, to satisfy my needs.

Anyone have experience with the old legacy 80-200 f4 or the 200mm f4 Nikon glass?

Any advice on good Nikon or 3rd party telephoto primes or zooms that are relatively fast, inexpensive (Manual Focus is not a problem, I shoot stationary for the most part, but have learned to obtain and keep focus fairly quickly when shooting manual), would be very very much appreciated.

Best,
Ilya



Apr 09, 2012 at 12:06 AM
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p.1 #2 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


the older manual 300 f4 is an excellent lens and can be had for cheap and the older AF version for less than 500 bux


Apr 09, 2012 at 12:17 AM
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p.1 #3 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


Thanks jmc, under 500 is definitely attractive, but my current situation leaves me more in the 250ish bracket, unfortunately.


Apr 09, 2012 at 12:19 AM
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p.1 #4 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


You can get a 70-300 VR used on the buy/sell here for a little over $300 ( $325? ).. and that lens is excellent. Maybe trenchmonkey wills stop by and show you just how good it is.


Apr 09, 2012 at 12:25 AM
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p.1 #5 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


Thanks Chris, I'll do some digging for some photos with it.

I currently am seeing an EX condition 200mm f4 on KEH. I know it won't meter on my D3000, but don't know how important that is (sunny 16 afterall). It is only $135. Is it a lens worth pursuing?



Apr 09, 2012 at 12:27 AM
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p.1 #6 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


They say the 200 F4 MF is sharp as a tack. I have the 300mm 4.5 I got from KEH They are very reasonable and pretty good quality as log as you don't mind manual focus. Get the AI or AI-S or for a few more bucks you might find it worth while to get the ED IF model

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/mdoc9523/DSC_5970a-1-1.jpg


Ray



Apr 09, 2012 at 12:53 AM
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p.1 #7 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


Thank you ray!
Yes, I was looking at the 300mm f4.5 earlier today, along with the 200mm f4, and I think i'll save up a bit and get that 200mm. I don't mind having to use an external light meter, and manual focusing legacy glass is such a delight. I actually find myself manual focusing better/faster with legacy glass than I do with Nikon's latest crop of lenses!!



Apr 09, 2012 at 01:00 AM
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p.1 #8 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


Ilya I noticed you have the Rokinon 85 1.4 I just bought one at my local store for $149 and I love it!!! Almost all of my lenses are manual focus.


Apr 09, 2012 at 01:04 AM
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p.1 #9 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


Yes MDoc, I do have the Rokinon...its a bloody fantastic lens! Sharpness, contrast, everything on it is phenomenal. However, the focus ring is very heavily damped, so I tend to use it more for stationary stuff (street scenes, architecture, etc) because it is not a very easy lens to focus on moving subjects. I have however had success zone-focusing with it.


Apr 09, 2012 at 01:06 AM
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p.1 #10 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


As an after thought I also have the 100-300 5.6 and it is a great lens. It is very sharp at 300 wide open and my just be what you are looking for.It is well balanced with the 300 extention closest to the body. It also works great with tubes. Bargin priced at Keh for around $100


Apr 09, 2012 at 01:17 AM
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p.1 #11 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


thanks MDoc, I'll have to poke around for some photos to see how it renders. f5.6 is a tad slow it seems, and I wonder about its background separation.


Apr 09, 2012 at 01:21 AM
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p.1 #12 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


I'll look through my photos to see what I have. The 80-200 4.5 is great also, but look for the one with the rectangular back AI version.


Apr 09, 2012 at 01:29 AM
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p.1 #13 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


thanks MDoc, looking forward to the photos!


Apr 09, 2012 at 01:30 AM
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p.1 #14 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


The 200mm f/4, both AI and AIS are tack sharp, as ray said, and the best bang for the buck in the 200mm range.
In a test against my beloved 80-200mm af-s f/2.8 (which is a well regarded lens, according many slighty better than the 70-200mm /2.8 VR1) the Nikkor AIS is sharper and do not suffer of focus breathing at less than 40-50m.

Some samples:


_D3C1187 Squirrel Cuckoo by labecoaves, on Flickr
Squirrel Cuckoo at 10m away, ~ 40% crop.
D3 + Nikkor 200mm f/4 ai-s, hand held, ISO 2000, 1/125s, f/5.6;
The bird was searching for bugs not fruits!



_DTR2835 Burnished-buff Tanager female by labecoaves, on Flickr
No need for supertelephotos here, this guy (in fact girl, a female Burnished-buff Tanager) was just at 2.5m. D300+ Nikkor 200mm f/4 AI-S hand held, f/5.6 1/60s, ~ 33% crop.


and a close up:

Ants preying on a Honey Bee by labecoaves, on Flickr
D7000 + 36mm Vivitar extension tube + Nikkor 200mm f/4 ai-s @ f/8, 1/160s hand held,
ISO 1600, ~ 50% cropped.



Apr 09, 2012 at 09:35 AM
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p.1 #15 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


I got a Nikkor-Q AI'd 200/4 for $50 off the local CL. But it is a lens that you should be able to get for $100 or less.

The AI 300/4.5 is also a great performer and gets you out to the 300 range and it should be doable for around your price range.



Apr 09, 2012 at 10:00 AM
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p.1 #16 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


Thank you all for the photos and insight.i may actually end up getting both the 200 and 300 on keh!



Apr 09, 2012 at 10:09 AM
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p.1 #17 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


Good luck and show us some shots when possible.


Apr 09, 2012 at 10:11 AM
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p.1 #18 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


I took these photos today using the 100-300. I think they should give you an idea of what this lens can do
http://s86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/mdoc9523/Nikon%20zoom%20100-300/



Apr 09, 2012 at 11:35 AM
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p.1 #19 · Manual Focus, Budget Long Glass


Will do!


Apr 09, 2012 at 12:10 PM





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