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Tariq Gibran
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p.7 #1 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


Spyro P. wrote:
Bizarre about the framelines, nobody else has mentioned it... are they still faint if you open the aperture? maybe you have some power saving setting on?

I'm still waiting for my adapter, tracking says it left HK almost 4 weeks ago grrrr


Nope, no power save modes are on. I have no idea what is going on but I suspect it's just a bug since the manual lens stuff seems very beta as I said. Indoors, the frame lines are bright and normal but once outside, they dim so much that often they disappear completely. What's also not working is the change in color to yellow of the frame lines in different brightness levels. I suspect since the camera is not getting electrical info from the Fuji lenses, all the auto stuff with the framelines is simply not working. All of this only applies to adapted lenses of course.



Apr 09, 2012 at 06:03 PM
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p.7 #2 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


Tariq Gibran wrote
...If I wasn't clear, I do agree with you. At native output size, the prints will look great. The problem shows up when you interpolate up the size as that's were things fall apart and the pixel level artifacts become apparent. Also note, my test was only with a vary specific subject - landscape foliage.


Tariq,

Please forgive this OT comment: I don't know much about rezzing up files, but I use ImagePrint and have always simply resized the file as is in ImagePrint to the final print size, even for very large prints — and that has always worked well, although I have not done that with landscape foliage. One B&W photo taken with the GRD, which has a sensor the size of a pinkie nail, I've printed at 100x133 cm (39x52 inches). When a world famous war photographer, known for the quality of his B&W prints, looked at it, he thought it was a Tri-X print. My impression is that ImagePrint is particularly good for uprezzing files. (The picture in question is the sixth in the series linked below.)

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Apr 09, 2012 at 07:42 PM
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p.7 #3 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


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Tariq,

Please forgive this OT comment: I don't know much about rezzing up files, but I use ImagePrint and have always simply resized the file as is in ImagePrint to the final print size, even for very large prints — and that has always worked well, although I have not done that with landscape foliage. One B&W photo taken with the GRD, which has a sensor the size of a pinkie nail, I've printed at 100x133 cm (39x52 inches). When a world famous war photographer, known for the quality of his B&W prints, looked at it, he thought it was
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Hey Mitch, I have used the Imageprint RIP before but just for printing (If I remember correctly, it was one of the only RIP's that would allow me to print really long and I needed to print an 18ft long photograph). I always resize before printing though. That said, I have never experimented with Imageprints interpolation so it could be great. One trick in interpolating up to larger sizes is to add some noise/grain and it sounds like Imageprint did that.



Apr 09, 2012 at 07:52 PM
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p.7 #4 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


Quick question for anyone with an X-Pro1. If you look at the back of your optical finder, do you see the black line pictured below in the finder window? It's not visible with the camera at your eye. I noticed this right when I received the camera but thought it must have something to do with the EVF or info overlay. Now I'm wondering if it's something else like a defect of some sort. It does not appear to be dust and its also internal (not removable with the rear clear diopter optic removed)
http://www.gibranstudio.com/speck.jpg



Apr 09, 2012 at 08:39 PM
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p.7 #5 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


Nope. Mine had a bunch of dust on the outside front surface (now cleaned off) and a few small spots inside. Yours looks like the debris that used to wash up inside my LX finders.


Apr 09, 2012 at 08:59 PM
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p.7 #6 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


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Nope. Mine had a bunch of dust on the outside front surface (now cleaned off) and a few small spots inside. Yours looks like the debris that used to wash up inside my LX finders.


Oh, don't say that. So it's debri inside the finder? That sucks. It has been there since I opened the box and has not moved. Guess I could knock the finder a few times on top with my hand and see if it dislodges.



Apr 09, 2012 at 09:06 PM
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p.7 #7 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


How likely are you going to return this camera? If I were you I would be really disappointed.


Apr 09, 2012 at 09:12 PM
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p.7 #8 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


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How likely are you going to return this camera? If I were you I would be really disappointed.


I keep going back and forth, until now, as I really REALLY enjoy using it. I keep thinking I will find a work-a-round to the image quality problem I have but this finder debri really bothers me in a $1700 body. If it's not easily dislodged, it's definitely going back.

Edit. It will not budge. It almost looks like a mark made by a fine sharpie.



Apr 09, 2012 at 09:16 PM
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p.7 #9 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


Take a closer look at the red Volkswagen and how XP1 renders the red.
Crop 100%

The Volkswagen taillights are just "filled" with red and all the details are mixed up into the same color.

http://i.pbase.com/o6/06/621206/1/142591526.XcQ1REhE.redComp.jpg

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Apr 09, 2012 at 09:39 PM
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p.7 #10 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


Tariq Gibran wrote:
I keep going back and forth, until now, as I really REALLY enjoy using it. I keep thinking I will find a work-a-round to the image quality problem I have but this finder debri really bothers me in a $1700 body. If it's not easily dislodged, it's definitely going back.

Edit. It will not budge. It almost looks like a mark made by a fine sharpie.


Not to pile on it, but another thread mentioning the dust problem in the viewfinder, so you are not alone (if that makes you feel better )
http://www.fujix-forum.com/index.php?/topic/4183-nikon-d3s-vs-fuji-x-pro1/



Apr 09, 2012 at 09:45 PM
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p.7 #11 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


vovkinson wrote:
Take a closer look at the red Volkswagen and how XP1 renders the red.
Crop 100%

The Volkswagen taillights are just "filled" with red and all the details are mixed up into the same color.

http://i.pbase.com/o6/06/621206/1/142591526.XcQ1REhE.redComp.jpg


Yep, known issue with the jpegs out of the X-Pro1. Is the M9 image an OOC jpeg or raw? The Fuji raws will give the correct red.



Apr 09, 2012 at 09:58 PM
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p.7 #12 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


Tariq Gibran wrote:
Quick question for anyone with an X-Pro1. If you look at the back of your optical finder, do you see the black line pictured below in the finder window? It's not visible with the camera at your eye. I noticed this right when I received the camera but thought it must have something to do with the EVF or info overlay. Now I'm wondering if it's something else like a defect of some sort. It does not appear to be dust and its also internal (not removable with the rear clear diopter optic removed)
http://www.gibranstudio.com/speck.jpg



Just checked mine and don't have that in mine. Must be debris of some sort.



Apr 09, 2012 at 10:03 PM
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p.7 #13 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


http://i.pbase.com/o6/06/621206/1/142591754.dzuPkb1t.WhiteCarComp.jpg



Apr 09, 2012 at 10:04 PM
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p.7 #14 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


converted from RAW

Tariq Gibran wrote:
Yep, known issue with the jpegs out of the X-Pro1. Is the M9 image an OOC jpeg or raw? The Fuji raws will give the correct red.




Apr 09, 2012 at 10:06 PM
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p.7 #15 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


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Just checked mine and don't have that in mine. Must be debris of some sort.


Thanks for checking and confirming.



Apr 09, 2012 at 10:07 PM
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p.7 #16 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


Tariq Gibran wrote:
Nope, no power save modes are on. I have no idea what is going on but I suspect it's just a bug since the manual lens stuff seems very beta as I said. Indoors, the frame lines are bright and normal but once outside, they dim so much that often they disappear completely. What's also not working is the change in color to yellow of the frame lines in different brightness levels. I suspect since the camera is not getting electrical info from the Fuji lenses, all the auto stuff with the framelines is simply not working. All of
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Just ruling out the basics but did you have polarizing sunglasses on? My X100 framelines completely disappear with mine.



Apr 10, 2012 at 08:31 AM
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p.7 #17 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


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Just ruling out the basics but did you have polarizing sunglasses on? My X100 framelines completely disappear with mine.


Nope.



Apr 10, 2012 at 08:38 AM
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p.7 #18 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


A desirable Fuji camera with tragic quirks? No!




Apr 10, 2012 at 08:39 AM
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p.7 #19 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


Whatever we're discussing here is a bad news for me anyway. I was on market for a camera like XP1 to go cheap from M9 (my wife has some more "important" plans to spend some bucks...Yeah..right) but considering all this stuff with quirks and color issues ..." Well... my wife will definitely wait... M9 stays!


Apr 10, 2012 at 09:08 AM
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p.7 #20 · The FM X-Pro 1 Thread


Well well well, look what just showed up on my desk:



(Taken using the Instagram "X-Pro" filter, of course. )



Apr 10, 2012 at 02:00 PM
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