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p.1 #1 · Honest review for first time post - HS hockey


First time posting. Wanted to get an honest review of the pictures below. All help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Steve

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Mar 15, 2012 at 09:53 PM
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p.1 #2 · Honest review for first time post - HS hockey


Just a couple things... They seem slightly underexposed. I'd probably bring the ISO up a little bit. You seem to have an eye for the action and you're in the right place. In post, you need to watch the horizon lines. Whenever you have strong vertical lines in an image, it's good to use them to determine straightness (is that a word?). Your horizon lines seem slightly off in a few of the images.

Seems like you're off to a good start!
Kathleen



Mar 15, 2012 at 10:00 PM
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p.1 #3 · Honest review for first time post - HS hockey


Thanks Kathleen! Can you explain a little more on the horizontal lines. I don't understand what that means. Sorry. Thanks again.


Mar 15, 2012 at 10:05 PM
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p.1 #4 · Honest review for first time post - HS hockey


Basically, horizon lines refer to the horizon. Think of a shot of the ocean... Water can't tilt. It needs to be straight. In photos, you should stay straight unless you've made an artistic decision to slant. With sports, there are very few times where a slanted image works.

When you have strong vertical lines in an image (a building, flag poles, windows, etc. ), you need to keep them at a right angle to the horizon. Once you recognize correct horizon lines, you won't be able to tolerate a titled image again. Sometimes the tilt is slight... Other times you feel dizzy looking at the image.

Does that help? Hope so! I had a professor in college who was a freak about straight horizon lines. Thanks to him, I have a big problem with inappropriately crocked images.

Thanks!



Mar 15, 2012 at 10:42 PM
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p.1 #5 · Honest review for first time post - HS hockey


Got it. That helps a lot. Thank you again!


Mar 15, 2012 at 10:45 PM
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p.1 #6 · Honest review for first time post - HS hockey


BTW - its an easy fix in post processing...!


Mar 15, 2012 at 10:52 PM
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p.1 #7 · Honest review for first time post - HS hockey


Very good shots and good action. I agree with Kathleen, they look slightly underexposed though. #6 is cropped a little too tight for my liking. I'd like a little breathing room around the puck like in your other shots.


Mar 15, 2012 at 11:37 PM
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p.1 #8 · Honest review for first time post - HS hockey


Steve....welcome aboard. For future posts....number them for easier references for people to use.

As Kathleen mentioned....bump the ISO a bit. If this is the Revolution....you should be able to get to 3200 or 4000 with no trouble. And the horizons.

#2 and #5 are the best out of the bunch and #5 the topper. #1, #3 are almost keepers but not enough face for me....too much of a side shot.

On #4....too much wasted space to the right.

Are these thru the glass? If so...then good job there because that glass it is pretty messy.

Otherwise good first attempt.

EDIT: My fingers and the keyboard are not in sync so early in the A.M.




Edited on Mar 17, 2012 at 08:38 AM · View previous versions



Mar 16, 2012 at 12:34 AM
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p.1 #9 · Honest review for first time post - HS hockey


Thanks to everyone for their feedback. It really helps. I will number them going forward, sorry about that. Yes, they were all through the glass.


Mar 16, 2012 at 06:06 AM
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p.1 #10 · Honest review for first time post - HS hockey


When you have strong vertical lines in an image (a building, flag poles, windows, etc. ), you need to keep them at a right angle to the horizon.

Rarely will you be able to tell if vertical lines are at right angles to the horizon, especially with indoor photography, because there often is no consistent true horizontal reference. Even when shooting outdoors, unless you can actually see the horizon, you can be fooled by things you think should be horizontal (bases of walls, fences, buildings) cuz these things can be affected by perspective. IMHO, it is far preferable to use vertical references…almost always, vertical things are vertical. You can use the ruler tool in Photoshop…drag it along something vertical (like a corner of a wall, the stanchion holding the glass, a seam in the boards, etc) and "Rotate Canvas Arbitrary" under the Image menu.

Regarding your images, first, you should number them. Second, too many have no faces or only a part of a face. Several look underexposed, also. Keep at it, though, you're close.



Mar 16, 2012 at 08:35 PM
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p.1 #11 · Honest review for first time post - HS hockey


Thank you for the detailed feedback, this is a great help. I will be using it this weekend. Cheer competition tomorrow.


Mar 16, 2012 at 09:02 PM
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p.1 #12 · Honest review for first time post - HS hockey


I agree with the other posters. The one thing about shooting with a "busy" background, like in the 5th image, is they tend to be very distracting. You were correct in shooting f/2.8 for DOF, but the banner takes away from the shot (distracting) and it can be VERY difficult to get away from these things. Another thought you may want to consider is in the 6th & 8th images, you have part of the background players (closest background player) head partially chopped off. I would have liked to have these players heads intact (pardon pun) because they are observing the action and add to the image. Still, the DOF are perfect in these two. I think my second observation, opinions may vary and you should make the decision what is correct...whether you are selling prints of the individual players or it is for editorial purposes. Good luck, and like the others said...you are on the right track!

PS- when shooting an action scene, try to get the players face visible. That is where the story begins and really sets the tone of the shot. I always shoot for the eyes, as they are the windows to the soul of an athlete.

Dejan



Mar 17, 2012 at 06:03 AM
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p.1 #13 · Honest review for first time post - HS hockey


Dejan, thank you for the feedback. I am building a great list of what to do and not to do.


Mar 18, 2012 at 09:38 AM





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