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Archive 2012 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?

  
 
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p.2 #1 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


For all practical purposes, focusing this lens on a FF camera is a non-issue. Select an aperture of f:5.6, turn the focus ring all the way to infinity, pull back a fraction, and you are set. Shoot what you will, everything will be in focus, from roughly 5', or 1.5m, to infinity. That is the point-and-shoot mode of the ZE 21.


Mar 11, 2012 at 11:27 AM
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p.2 #2 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


Save money and time buying the boxed set:

Zeiss ZE SLR Lens Case Set For Canon EF Mount
The Carl Zeiss ZE SLR Lens Case Set For Canon EF Mount consists of five powerful T* lenses and a specially-designed waterproof case.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/818396-REG/Zeiss_410951_0000_032_ZE_SLR_Lens_Case.html

A steal at $6k!



Mar 11, 2012 at 11:40 AM
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p.2 #3 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


kaycephoto wrote:
also, i know this lens has faint mustache distortion.. is this automatically corrected in Lightroom on RAWs?


dbehrens wrote:
Yes - both LR and ACR have lens correction.


That can correct for mustache distortion? Ummmm....



Mar 11, 2012 at 11:55 AM
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p.2 #4 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


Bifurcator wrote:
That can correct for mustache distortion? Ummmm....

I am pretty sure that you can create your own profile for it to use in ACR by using Adobe Lens Profile I think



Mar 11, 2012 at 12:02 PM
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p.2 #5 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


alrac wrote:
Save money and time buying the boxed set:

Zeiss ZE SLR Lens Case Set For Canon EF Mount
The Carl Zeiss ZE SLR Lens Case Set For Canon EF Mount consists of five powerful T* lenses and a specially-designed waterproof case.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/818396-REG/Zeiss_410951_0000_032_ZE_SLR_Lens_Case.html

A steal at $6k!


That discription is just silly...
B&H wrote:
21mm Distagon f/2.8 T* ZE
A super wide lens that can close in just over 8". It's non-reflecting and distortion-free, and so outputs images with contrast and color.

Seriously... who writes these things?



Mar 11, 2012 at 12:06 PM
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p.2 #6 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


Congratulations! Thanks my all time favorite landscape lens on the 1Ds III. You'll be blown away by the edge sharpness. Just setup a good tripod and ball head and you're good to go.


Mar 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM
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p.2 #7 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


Bifurcator wrote:
That can correct for mustache distortion? Ummmm....


Hmmm - Let me qualify that. Yes it does correct mustache distortion for my 21 ZE - but it does not correct distorted moustaches!



Mar 11, 2012 at 01:12 PM
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p.2 #8 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


Oh and don't get your feet in the shot! This is wide


Mar 11, 2012 at 05:10 PM
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p.2 #9 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


Allright, I found it. This is the legendary photo that sucked everybody into wanting a 21mm distagon:

http://www.guymancusophotography.com/index-slides.html?folio=PORTFOLIO&gallery=Corporate%2fIndustrial

It is the airplane cockpit, 5th one into the slideshow. This used to get posted all over here but I think when he left he blew out all of his posts first.



Mar 11, 2012 at 05:32 PM
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p.2 #10 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


I remember that shot!


Mar 11, 2012 at 06:07 PM
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p.2 #11 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


carstenw wrote:
I remember that shot!


I think you had to be around here at least before 2006. Not a lot of people around that long.

That shot just made me lust after the 21/2.8 and I settled for the 21mm Zuiko



Mar 11, 2012 at 09:36 PM
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p.2 #12 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


any idea whether Lightroom would do an equally adequate job of dealing with the distortion as PTLens? (i've seen examples of the latter, but not the former)

would love to just plug in RAWs into one program (LR) & not change up the workflow at all..



Mar 11, 2012 at 11:35 PM
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p.2 #13 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


jotdeh wrote:
That discription is just silly...

Seriously... who writes these things?


translation from German, I suspect...



Mar 12, 2012 at 03:32 AM
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p.2 #14 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


Bifurcator wrote:



atran's right; it does not correct mustache distortions unless you've downloaded and installed (or created) a custom profile specifically for that lens and your camera. There's no tools in any app I'm aware of which will allow one to correct for mustache distortions interactively. Even DXO's tools don't IIRC - and it's probably the best app for such things.



Okay - I'm now confused. Here are two identical pics. 5D with 21ZE.First is straight from the camera - resized, The second had "Enable Profile Corrections" ticked in LR3 - then resized. To my eyes the mustache distortion has been corrected. Am I wrong??
Dave

http://www.pbase.com/dbehrens/image/142030091/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/dbehrens/image/142030095/original.jpg

Edited on Mar 12, 2012 at 07:58 AM · View previous versions



Mar 12, 2012 at 06:38 AM
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p.2 #15 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


Bifurcator wrote:
atran's right; it does not correct mustache distortions unless you've downloaded and installed (or created) a custom profile specifically for that lens and your camera. There's no tools in any app I'm aware of which will allow one to correct for mustache distortions interactively. Even DXO's tools don't IIRC - and it's probably the best app for such things.

There are a couple of LCP entries for the Zeiss 21 on a couple of different bodies but creating a profile yourself is a major pain in the butt! Major!

Here's the links if anyone is interested:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lensprofile_creator/
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/lensprofile_creator/lensprofile_creator_userguide.pdf

Once obtained or created they can
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thanks for the informative post - very helpful.

correct me if i'm misunderstanding your post a bit, but are you suggesting that creating a custom profile for my particular 21ZE lens will work better than simply using the existing Zeiss 21mm profile in Lightroom?

i've had pretty good experiences with all of the existing Canon lens profiles in Lightroom so far, without having to create my own profiles.. is there perhaps more sample variation in terms of produced mustache distortion with diff copies of the Zeiss 21mm than a typical Canon L lens?



Mar 12, 2012 at 06:44 AM
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p.2 #16 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


The default Lightroom profile works really well with my Zeiss 21/2.8 ZE as well as other Zeiss lenses.


Mar 12, 2012 at 06:51 PM
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p.2 #17 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


Unless you have a very specific architectural need, I really don't think a bit of distortion is that big of a deal. It's part of the signature of the lens!


Mar 12, 2012 at 08:33 PM
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p.2 #18 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


Thanks for that flash back! I loved looking at Guy's old Z21 Images!

If you are doing natural landscapes in the real world the "mustache" thing just never comes up as a concern.

For architecture I wonder if an "open source" profile has been made available? Why don't we share the burden and then deposit the profile under the GPL?



Mar 12, 2012 at 08:55 PM
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p.2 #19 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


I had no idea that LR could correct for mustache type distortion. I doubt I would notice it much of the time anyway.


Mar 12, 2012 at 09:12 PM
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p.2 #20 · Just took the plunge! Zeiss 21mm on the way, tips & suggestions?


Dave, yes I belive you are right. It look corrected on the second photo


Mar 12, 2012 at 09:19 PM
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