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p.2 #1 · M mount for V1/J1??


Roughly none But if someone should be interested, a second system is more or less the only way. I think the V1 could complement an M8 or M9 nicely.


Feb 26, 2012 at 07:26 AM
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p.2 #2 · M mount for V1/J1??


I would think the users of the 85s, 90s, and 135s might take exception to idea that no RF shooter uses that range.


Feb 26, 2012 at 06:30 PM
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p.2 #3 · M mount for V1/J1??


This is why many feel Nikon 1 system doesn't offer the best overall flexibility or bang for the buck, using these expensive lenses.

With the same M-mount lens, NEX-7 can duplicate V1's FOV by cropping and ends up with a 7.6MP image:
- V1's 2.7X crop sensor produces a 3872 X 2592 = 10MP image.
- Crop a NEX-7 APS-C 6000 X 4000 24.3MP image to Nikon 1 sensor area will yield a 3384 X 2256 = 7.6MP image. Still pretty high resolution for a lot of use!
- Crop a NEX-5N APS-C 4912 X 3264 16.1MP image to Nikon 1 sensor area will yield a 2771 X 1841 = 5.1MP image. Resolution is still usable! Half the pixel density = higher dynamic range.

With the same lens, V1 can never duplicating NEX-7 nor 5N's widest FOV or resolution:
- Put a 12mm M-mount lens on a NEX-7 will produce a 24.3MP (NEX-5N 16.1MP) image with 18mm equivalent FOV.
- Put the same 12mm M-mount lens on a V1 will produce a 10MP image with 32mm equivalent FOV.



Feb 26, 2012 at 09:21 PM
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p.2 #4 · M mount for V1/J1??


freaklikeme wrote:
I would think the users of the 85s, 90s, and 135s might take exception to idea that no RF shooter uses that range.


I did say "roughly", meaning that there might be a small percentage of deviants. Personally I don't think of anything shorter than a 135 as a tele, but a short tele, and Leica explicitly does not recommend 135mm lenses for the M8/M9. The term is used wrongly anyway, since tele centric construction is theoretically not tied to a long focal length, but that is another topic.



Feb 27, 2012 at 03:06 AM
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p.2 #5 · M mount for V1/J1??


Imagemaster wrote:
For those who don't think the V1 makes any sense for much of anything, I don't think they are aware of some of the advantages this camera has over any other camera on the market.

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When I receive the FT-1 adapter, I will be testing it on my 300 f4 lens, which will give me a 35mm equivalent of 810mm f4.


Well, it will have the same FOV as an ~800mm lens, but the DOF will be more like f8, right? I hear what you're getting after, but the (reach) advantage seems more theoretical than practical with the tiny body. There are some m4/3 cameras that at least have a somewhat 'substantial' body and still have a nice 2x reach multiplier (plus very small dedicated lenses).



Feb 27, 2012 at 10:54 AM
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p.2 #6 · M mount for V1/J1??


I am liking the idea of the c-mount lenses more and more ...... and I see that there is a c-mount to 1 system adapter. Sounds interesting to me, and something that might be worth checking out.

I like to experiment ...... so I guess you guys also think that the F-mount adapter is a total waste of time on the V1 too.



Feb 27, 2012 at 04:17 PM
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p.2 #7 · M mount for V1/J1??


lxdesign wrote:
I am liking the idea of the c-mount lenses more and more ...... and I see that there is a c-mount to 1 system adapter. Sounds interesting to me, and something that might be worth checking out.

I like to experiment ...... so I guess you guys also think that the F-mount adapter is a total waste of time on the V1 too.


i'm also very curious about c-mount lens performance on the nikon-1 cameras. for me f-mount would be a waste of time, but if you're into autofocus and have the lenses already it could be interesting. it doesn't really make sense from the perspective of buying both the camera and lenses for that purpose, you can get the same level of pixel magnification with less awkward methods.



Feb 27, 2012 at 05:47 PM
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p.2 #8 · M mount for V1/J1??


Well, I have the FT-1 adapter, and the camera works wonderfully with my Nikon lenses... especially for telephoto on my 70-200VR (540mm)


Feb 28, 2012 at 04:34 PM
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p.2 #9 · M mount for V1/J1??


carstenw wrote:
I did say "roughly", meaning that there might be a small percentage of deviants. Personally I don't think of anything shorter than a 135 as a tele, but a short tele, and Leica explicitly does not recommend 135mm lenses for the M8/M9. The term is used wrongly anyway, since tele centric construction is theoretically not tied to a long focal length, but that is another topic.


Deviants. I like that.

I didn't know they warned against using the 135s. That's a shame. If what I've read and seen can be believed, the APO 135/3.4 is one of their highest performing lenses to date.



Feb 29, 2012 at 05:51 PM
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p.2 #10 · M mount for V1/J1??


It is a great lens, just really hard to focus accurately. If your rangefinder is bang on, and your eyes are good, it is possible though.


Feb 29, 2012 at 06:07 PM
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p.2 #11 · M mount for V1/J1??


Lotusm50 wrote:
Hard for me to imagine someone bothering with this. The sensor is just so small. So much better off with a NEX for about the same money.


Obviously depends on your needs because you can do much better than NEX for the same money too



Feb 29, 2012 at 09:39 PM
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p.2 #12 · M mount for V1/J1??


RobCD wrote:
Obviously depends on your needs because you can do much better than NEX for the same money too


i'm sure there are special usage cases where that's true, but what can i get that beats the NEX in image quality for $500?



Feb 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM
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p.2 #13 · M mount for V1/J1??


RobCD wrote:
Obviously depends on your needs because you can do much better than NEX for the same money too


I feel pretty confident in saying that, under $999, there isn't a better digital camera available for M lenses than the NEX-5N.



Mar 01, 2012 at 01:48 AM
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