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JohnyWishbone
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p.1 #1 · First NHL game


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I have been asked to shoot an NHL game, any advice would be appreciated -

Process to expect
Arrival time
Etiquette
Gear (1 body or 2,D3S - D700 backup)
Lens selection
Other thoughts

Looks like I will have to option of shooting at ice level (thinking 70-200), or up at the concourse level (thinking 400 2.8.)

While I am very much anticipating the game, my biggest fear is the fear of the unknown, I simply don't know what I don't know.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts, suggestions and comments.

The Wishbone



Feb 09, 2012 at 11:46 PM
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p.1 #2 · First NHL game


Just watch the game. If your getting in free it must be worth $200!

Seriously though......

70 - 200 for the corners. 300 prime if you can get near center ice and 400 prime right of goal looking down the ice.

light should not be an issue so play with aperture.

Do you have a remote trigger? Set up the 400 in a press box facing the opposite goal. Shoot the goalie too as U R in the corner the other end.

Eat as much food in the press area as this may be the one and only time U get the chance?

RH.



Feb 10, 2012 at 12:41 AM
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p.1 #3 · First NHL game


Wishbone: I would say you should show up at least 90 minutes prior to game time. Two hours would be better--you'd rather have time to kill than not have enough time to learn the ropes. I also would recommend that you have two camera bodies. Even if you shoot with only one of them, it's important to have a backup. As for etiquette: know your place, which is as 'the new kid on the block.' Seek out the person in charge of photographers. Find out what the rules are and where you are expected to shoot from. Don't break any of the rules. And I wouldn't recommend thinking about setting up a remote your first time at the venue. You'll have enough to worry about. Finally, enjoy the opportunity, and don't even think about doing anything with the photos that is prohibited by the credential coming to you.


Feb 10, 2012 at 01:00 AM
JohnyWishbone
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p.1 #4 · First NHL game


Russ - That's great advice.

Thanks You



Feb 10, 2012 at 01:06 AM
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p.1 #5 · First NHL game


First game? Don't overdo it. As Russ astutely pointed out, enjoy the opportunity. Minimum of two bodies to do the full ice justice as there isn't a lens out there to properly cover the full range of NHL ice. If you are shooting from a hole they have been significantly reduced in size across the league (if not, like some teams, eliminated completely). Since you haven't indicated which team I'd be certain there are even holes in the glass if you're at ice level. If you aren't you need to consider some sort of gobo to reduce reflection.

If you do have access to a hole there are some KEY considerations, most of which should be emphasized by the people assigning space. First never use a lens hood. Some places still randomly allow it, but here they are not. The hood can be dislodged and fall onto the ice, or it can stick out too far beyond the glass. That being said, be VERY aware of how far your lens is into the hole. Ideally you're as far as the same plane as the glass, or maybe a touch beyond it, but never stick it through too far to 'get a better angle' if the puck is in the same end. Pucks travel at ridiculous speeds, and players are moving constantly, especially without the puck, so they may be coming from an angle opposite the puck. Officials also tend to stick very close to the boards and appear out of nowhere sometimes. Essentially, when the puck is in your end, be VERY aware.

By the same token, I suggest keeping the lens in the hole most of the time. A puck deflected into it is much better than the puck into your (or a fan's) face. Just last weekend I was shooting a game and a puck deflected off a player through the hole and off my camera, so even with years of experience there is simply no time to react. (plus, I'm older and slower than when I used to play, but still looked spectacular on TV when they zoomed in on the hole to show where the puck disappeared to).

As for the 400 suggested above...not sure how many NHL games WestCoastSnap has shot, but you're not getting much with a 400 2.8 through an NHL hole...even a 300 2.8 doesn't fit through the 'standard' ones anymore, and you're likely not going to get a seat to shoot down ice behind the net. And, the remote from the press box...like Russ said, besides having enough to think about, I wouldn't imaging you're getting much with even a 400 from the distances of most NHL press boxes...again, without knowing your venue.

Have fun, be safe, and remember, it's the fastest sport out there, and if it's your first time shooting ice level at the NHL caliber, it will move faster than you can even imagine.

Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to know.



Feb 10, 2012 at 07:57 AM
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p.1 #6 · First NHL game


300 prime up by the tv cameras
70-200 and 16-35 on the glass...REMOVE your lens hoods. Don't want them falling off through the cut outs onto the ice.
Custom white balance...use an expo disc if you have one, if not ask other photogs what K they shoot at.
Manual exposure...the bright white ice will throw off your exposure.
Take your knee pads for shooting on ice level.



Feb 10, 2012 at 08:01 AM
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p.1 #7 · First NHL game


Congrats on the opportunity, I'm sure it'll be lots of fun.

+1 for the advice given; I would especially heed Russ amd mcarlson's advice about going early; there's been the occasion here where the team officials didn't have the photographer's credentials at the entrance door and it took awhile to sort things out.

BTW what's the venue?

Terry



Feb 10, 2012 at 10:57 AM
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p.1 #8 · First NHL game


Gentlemen,

Great advice guys.

Jim, Having shot hockey for some time, I am a strong believer in the expo disc. And how bad would that look to have the game stopped to pick up a lens hood. 35,000 eyes staring at you - nooo good.

Terry, Xcel in St Paul MN

MC, They have a platform where I have seen a few guys shooting there 400 from. Great advice. Follow up... Do you hook up to the stadium strobes when your shooting at ice level?

Many thanks guys!




Feb 10, 2012 at 11:09 AM
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p.1 #9 · First NHL game


If I'm shooting from above, yes, the 400 may be useful. At the Tampa Bay Times Forum a 400 from the press box would be a stretch. Shooting from the top of the first level I usually use a 300 if I'm shooting editorial to be sure to get a wide enough shot to tell the story of a goal, or 400 if I'm shooting more stock style to get tight on individuals.

As for the strobes, the only one here who uses them is the team photographer. On occasion when I fill in that role I have the opportunity to use them, but this summer the arena underwent an extensive renovation, including a huge improvement in the lighting, so, to be honest, shooting ambient is not terrible at all...can easily get 2000 3.5 @ 1600 on a Mark IV and have it look quite clean.



Feb 10, 2012 at 11:19 AM
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p.1 #10 · First NHL game


Where you shooting


Feb 10, 2012 at 06:39 PM





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