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p.3 #1 · It happened....


amonline wrote:
Pics of the 1911, or it didn't happen.



PM me your cell and i'll snap a cell phone pic for you. its pretty sweet.



Feb 08, 2012 at 05:47 PM
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Sarah Dickerso wrote:
Chuck, after my first response I heard back from a planner that I'm super close with - I usually get 5-7 weddings per year from her. There was a bride super interested in me, and was a couple hours out of town so we'd just been conversing via phone and email. She called me a bit over a week ago while I was with my accountant all morning. She called like 4 times that morning, but I wasn't going to be rude and ditch my accountant to take a call. I called her back at lunch when I was
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wow, those are some crazy stories! i personally cannot imagine taking someone's time like that and not giving them the courtesy of an honest call.

so frustrating!



Feb 08, 2012 at 05:48 PM
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Kittyk wrote:
i know it hurts. but i guess you will do fine with that whiskey :-). i would be more interested (since we are on topic) in three things

1) what do you answer to that

2) do you ask the couple who rejects you, who they went with?

3) is it wrong to book 90+% of consults? I am trying to keep moneys out of all decisions or even consult (we do it mostly after the fact) but booking so much can also mean we undervalue our self? Or just our presentation is so good that we address couples which fit us? I
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great questions!

1) Here was my response:

"XXXXX,

I have to admit, I'm bummed! I sincerely loved meeting you guys. You two
are a great couple and will undoubtedly have a FANTASTIC DAY!

I wish you guys all the best! If there is anything I can do for you guys,
do not hesitate to ask!

Chuck"

2) I dont really care who they went with. Its just not that important to me. I'll never ask that question.

3) Good question to which I do not know the answer. I think I do a good job communicating everything I can BEFORE the consult so that by the time they are at the table, it is about ME (not my images and not selling).



Feb 08, 2012 at 05:52 PM
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Even the best of us lose sometimes


Feb 08, 2012 at 05:52 PM
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Brian Virts wrote:
I give them credit for the closure email.




for sure. i definitely appreciate it!



Feb 08, 2012 at 05:52 PM
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bthatton wrote:
That kind of booking rate seems to mean you're charging too little!



Perhaps. But I'm comfortable with what I'm charging so I dont really feel the need to raise prices at this point.



Feb 08, 2012 at 05:54 PM
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SeanP wrote:
...humble brag. sounds like you're doing quite well



haha, thanks sean. it kinda was



Feb 08, 2012 at 05:54 PM
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thanks all for the words. i'm really ok with it all. we actually had an inquiry for the same date that i lost before i went to the consult so we contacted them today to set up a meeting.

on to the next one! a new streak begins!



Feb 08, 2012 at 05:57 PM
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p.3 #9 · It happened....


Hate when that happens


Feb 08, 2012 at 07:02 PM
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I'm not sure if this translates from the commercial world to the wedding world but for the most part business is business.
If I was getting 95% of the jobs I bid on I'd think my prices were too low and I was leaving money on the table. OR, and its a big OR I have so perfectly narrowed down my marketing so I there is a perfect match for both me and my client.
When clients don't choose me many times they don't tell me, there is no communication until the next bid comes up, and I have to assume I won't be doing the job... The decent ones will let me know that they have "gone in a different direction". One of them actually puts "gone in a different direction" in quotation marks as it has become a cliche line
But for the most part there isn;t much of an emotional connection between me an my clients as in weddings so maybe that is why the clients say things to soften the blow...they are nicer.



Feb 08, 2012 at 07:16 PM
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no big deal. i know of a bride who couldn't afford me but has referred 5 weddings to me.


Feb 08, 2012 at 07:17 PM
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p.3 #12 · It happened....


coincidentally, chuck forgot to put on deodorant that morning.


Feb 08, 2012 at 07:46 PM
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jprezant wrote:
coincidentally, chuck forgot to put on deodorant that morning.



i didnt want to wake you up to ask you where it was...you looked so adorable sleeping there. did you get my note on your windshield?



Feb 08, 2012 at 08:09 PM
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I would hire you based on looks alone.



Feb 08, 2012 at 08:29 PM
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p.3 #15 · It happened....


I did get your note. And the look your wife gave me as I made my
walk of shame down the hallway will be forever burned into my mind.



Feb 08, 2012 at 08:37 PM
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I have been booking around 40% lately. something is wrong.. my photos suck, my personality sucks, or my presentation sucks- 2 of those are relatively easy to fix. Mostly it is price (I am among the more expensive in the area). Count your blessings.


Feb 09, 2012 at 12:31 AM
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Andrew Welsh wrote:
I have been booking around 40% lately. something is wrong.. my photos suck, my personality sucks, or my presentation sucks- 2 of those are relatively easy to fix. Mostly it is price (I am among the more expensive in the area). Count your blessings.


Dude don't feel bad. My bookings are around 60%. I questioned my work many times but each time I deliver my work to a client they tell me how much they love them, makes me forget about the ones that haven't booked me. And I am too, more expensive than my competitors who will do anything to get a booking, hell one of them even offered my client free photography if they get hired. She simply said "look I don't care about my videos as much, but photography is very important to me and I have my photographer picked." talk about LMAO!

As for Chuck, you're good. Your work is excellent and don't let 1 rejection get you down. You'll get more rejection in the future and just like that, you will also get clients that truly want you for your work.



Feb 09, 2012 at 08:55 AM
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This is the photography version of Casey at the bat.

The flags will be flying at half-mast today in Mudville...

- trr



Feb 09, 2012 at 10:00 AM
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p.3 #19 · It happened....


TRReichman wrote:
This is the photography version of Casey at the bat.

The flags will be flying at half-mast today in Mudville...

- trr



hahahahaa. you are right....i thought i was going to get that hit!



Feb 09, 2012 at 10:12 AM
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p.3 #20 · It happened....


I haven't read all the replies, but if you're booking 100% of meetings, you're most likely underpriced. The only exception I can think of would be if you've already been through a lot of back and forth on the phone or with email, so the meeting is simply a formality to sign a contract.


Feb 09, 2012 at 11:42 AM
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