derry1 wrote:
I certainly am looking forward to a hands on test at the local shop,, I'm afraid that when I bring my CF card home for review it will end up with a call to B&H,,
Derry
B&H will likely have a waiting list several hundred people deep. Why not just buy from your local camera shop?
Ben Horne wrote:
B&H will likely have a waiting list several hundred people deep. Why not just buy from your local camera shop?
Sales tax could be a big part.
crewshin wrote:
This camera is going to MURDER at 3k. Canon better have something solid lined up with the 1DM3.
Likely Canon is in trouble if they can't match. Even I'm going to take a close look at it, and I hate putting money into camera bodies. For me, the tough part would be selling Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 and Nikon 17-55mm f2.8 and replacing with Nikons 14-24 & 24-70mm f2.8. (I absolutely refuse to "go backwards" on lenses and use lower quality.) A Nikon 16-35mm f4 might work for me on the wide end if the camera shoots clean at ISO 3200. I could pick up that lost stop with ISO. Two huge unknowns are (1) price (2) actual performance at ISO >1600. I'm planning a trip to Arctic Europe in June, but that might not be enough time to read the reviews, find one in stock, and practice with it for a month or so. (I hate taking equipment I'm not familiar with on "important" trips.) I like the smaller size, don't like the backup SD card bullshit, love the video, and suspect I'll miss DX reach for wildlife. All camera gear must be carefully considered as to how it fits with how & what you shoot and as a piece of your system. I have zero interest in a used 13mp D700, no matter what the price. I could sell my D300 and D80, buy a D7000 as backup (I do need a back up,) which would also give me DX reach with my 400mm lens. That plus three pro Nikon f2.8 zooms, my Gitzo tripod, and my SB-900 would be a very capable and flexible system. If the camera does reasonably well at ISO 6400 (still a big if) I wouldn't even need any f1.4 lenses any more.
Two23 wrote:
Likely Canon is in trouble if they can't match. Even I'm going to take a close look at it, and I hate putting money into camera bodies. For me, the tough part would be selling Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 and Nikon 17-55mm f2.8 and replacing with Nikons 14-24 & 24-70mm f2.8. (I absolutely refuse to "go backwards" on lenses and use lower quality.) A Nikon 16-35mm f4 might work for me on the wide end if the camera shoots clean at ISO 3200. I could pick up that lost stop with ISO. Two huge unknowns are (1) price (2) actual performance at ISO >1600. I'm planning a trip to Arctic Europe in June, but that might not be enough time to read the reviews, find one in stock, and practice with it for a month or so. (I hate taking equipment I'm not familiar with on "important" trips.) I like the smaller size, don't like the backup SD card bullshit, love the video, and suspect I'll miss DX reach for wildlife. All camera gear must be carefully considered as to how it fits with how & what you shoot and as a piece of your system. I have zero interest in a used 13mp D700, no matter what the price. I could sell my D300 and D80, buy a D7000 as backup (I do need a back up,) which would also give me DX reach with my 400mm lens. That plus three pro Nikon f2.8 zooms, my Gitzo tripod, and my SB-900 would be a very capable and flexible system. If the camera does reasonably well at ISO 6400 (still a big if) I wouldn't even need any f1.4 lenses any more.
Also, you can still shoot in DX if you want to do that. It's still 16MP in DX.
Hope that helps a little.
I want to see what B&H actually charges, which is not yet known for sure. As for shooting in DX, that would be ridiculous. I would just buy the D7000 and save $2,000. Plus the $2,000 it's going to cost me to upgrade lenses. It would make more sense to buy 24-70mm f2.8, 16-35mm f4 or 14-24mm f2.8, and THEN buy the camera. Camera price may drop after the initial rush, but you can damn sure bet the lenses will start to increase in price as demand goes up.
Oh I wasn't trying to sell you on it. I was just putting the info out there as your original post made it sound like you didn't think the camera could shoot in DX crop mode.
By all means, get the D7k if that suits your needs/wallet better.
Two23 wrote:
I could sell my D300 and D80, buy a D7000 as backup (I do need a back up,) which would also give me DX reach with my 400mm lens.
Just thought I'd point out that you're not actually getting any "reach" with a D7000 vs. a D800. The pixel pitch is virtually identical. Take the same shot with the same lens on the D800, and crop it down to DX size. You'll get the same resolving power, just less field of view. That's all you're doing with the DX body.
Two23 wrote:
Likely Canon is in trouble if they can't match.
Canon can match the resolution if they want and also get in the same ballpark for features. What they probably can't match is the D800's base ISO dynamic range and clean shadows.
lukeb wrote:
I wouldn't put a lot of money on that
I think this will affect the price of used D3X's more than D700's. I'm keeping my D700, but would eventually like to add a D800. I will wait until the dust settles. I'm also curious to see how the D800E stacks up to the regular version.
Chris Ventura wrote:
Everyone guessing the price in the high $3000 to low $4000 range for the D800 prior to tonight....
Boy those D700's are really going to be selling cheap.
Yup. As I have thought. The D800 price is close to the D700! I do feel sorry for those folks that recently bought a D700. The first stage will be Denial.
Welcome to high resolution photography boys and girls! Image detail! It's a beautiful thing.
