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p.31 #1 · A Digital OM?


Thanks Jman13, I was also disappointed to see the max file sizes on the video, not a deal breaker, but come on?


Feb 07, 2012 at 10:56 AM
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p.31 #2 · A Digital OM?


Is there any camera that can record larger than a 4GB video file? It's a limitation of the FAT32 file system. They'd need to format the cards in a different file system to get around this limitation.


Feb 07, 2012 at 11:00 AM
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p.31 #3 · A Digital OM?


OK, so this:


Eye Detection AF mode : OFF / Nearer-eye priority / Right-eye priority / Left-eye priority


is going to kick some booty with the 45/1.8 and 75/1.8 in shallow DoF portraits...

Ken



Feb 07, 2012 at 11:04 AM
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p.31 #4 · A Digital OM?


If it's good and actually works well, that will be pretty sweet.


Feb 07, 2012 at 11:06 AM
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p.31 #5 · A Digital OM?


The VF, the VF!!!
I hoped, even if this is a m4/3 camera, at least they would make the VF experience similar to the film OM...
3 VF styles, the one with the bigger image, the same as the VF-2
WT-VF!



Feb 07, 2012 at 11:06 AM
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p.31 #6 · A Digital OM?


Yeah, I'm disappointed in the VF magnification...I mean, it's much smaller than the old Panasonic G1 finder. I've been used to that 0.7x (FF) size viewfinder for years now....in my 1Ds II, then the GH2 and GX1...not sure how I'd fare with a smaller view.


Feb 07, 2012 at 11:09 AM
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p.31 #7 · A Digital OM?


Didn't notice the VF. Yeah, that is lame, especially coming from the OM heritage (supposedly).

Oh well, there will never be the perfect camera.

This one is shaping up pretty OK. If that new "5 EV" IBIS system will at least get reliable "tack sharp" results at 2EV with portrait focal lengths I may be sold. And I'm talking sharp results at 2EV, and none of the problems with some of the other Oly IBIS and Panasonic OIS systems of late where the real sweet spot for IS is actually no better or worse than with IS off. I don't need less blurry 1 second exposures. I need sharp 1/30th exposures!

Ken



Feb 07, 2012 at 11:20 AM
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p.31 #8 · A Digital OM?


kwalsh wrote:
Didn't notice the VF. Yeah, that is lame, especially coming from the OM heritage (supposedly).



Yes, supposedly.




Feb 07, 2012 at 11:25 AM
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p.31 #9 · A Digital OM?


Jman13 wrote:
Well, not f/1.4, but it looks like you'll be able to get darn close pretty soon: Upcoming Voigtlander 17.5mm f/0.95 - will give the look of a 35mm f/1.9.
http://photorumors.com/2012/02/06/voigtlander-nokton-17-5mm-f0-95-aspherical-lens-for-micro-four-thirds/#more-20270


At F2, this image would look really different.


Washington Square Park Piano Man by jaetography, on Flickr



Feb 07, 2012 at 11:43 AM
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p.31 #10 · A Digital OM?


Oh, man. That sucks about the VF!


Feb 07, 2012 at 12:07 PM
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p.31 #11 · A Digital OM?


FlyPenFly wrote:
At F2, this image would look really different.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6777997243_48dd8f6662_m.jpg
Washington Square Park Piano Man by jaetography, on Flickr


There's going to be a difference, but it's not an enormous gulf like it once was. The fact is, full frame is the only way to get the same DOF as 35/1.4. You can't do it on NEX or the Fuji either. This is about as close as you can get (a 24/1.2 would do it on the NEX). I don't WANT a full frame mirrorless...it mainly defeats the point. You can make small FF manual focus lenses, with a longer register like the M mount does, though it's tough for digital...but add AF and those start getting bigger...go beyond 135mm and they start getting really big, regardless of register distance.

I went Micro 4/3 to shrink my kit, not have a smaller body with the same size lenses.



Feb 07, 2012 at 12:15 PM
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p.31 #12 · A Digital OM?


For how big that bump on top is, it seems like they could have done better with a larger viewfinder, but I will try my best to reserve judgement until I can actually look through one. VF technology has a way to go before it can compete with optical, if it ever can, but then again I never thought digital would surpass film in the time it did


Feb 07, 2012 at 12:19 PM
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p.31 #13 · A Digital OM?


EVFs are something you either love or hate. I love them. I used to hate them, and then I used one for a year and now I much prefer them. Better viewing in low light, ability to zoom to focus, even without that, much more accurate manual focus. But that's me. I don't understand why they couldn't at least match the GH2's size, though.


Feb 07, 2012 at 12:22 PM
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p.31 #14 · A Digital OM?


Jman13 wrote:
I went Micro 4/3 to shrink my kit, not have a smaller body with the same size lenses.


+1

Amen Jman, that is exactly what I was looking for as well. I intially was really intrigued with the APS-C mirrorless but I realized soon that most of the lenses are not much smaller than their FF counterparts. To me, buying into a mirrorless system that has big lenses kind of defeats the purpose for "Compact". If you're going to own both DSLR and CSC, then I think 4/3 has the best system going.



Feb 07, 2012 at 12:24 PM
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p.31 #15 · A Digital OM?


kwalsh wrote:
OK, so this:

is going to kick some booty with the 45/1.8 and 75/1.8 in shallow DoF portraits...

Ken


Cool feature.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Feb 07, 2012 at 01:51 PM
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p.31 #16 · A Digital OM?


And the eye detection really works, I was really surprised when I first started playing with that on my E-P3

Edited on Feb 07, 2012 at 04:14 PM · View previous versions



Feb 07, 2012 at 01:56 PM
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p.31 #17 · A Digital OM?


I haven't followed micro 4/3 the last year. Now that I have been spoiled by the Nex-5N I wonder about the shutter lag; my old Panasonic G1 has quite some shutter lag. Are the new Olympus cameras better?

...and related in some way, when using the Panasonic micro 25/1.4 with an Olympus camera, is the aperture dance still there?



Feb 07, 2012 at 04:11 PM
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p.31 #18 · A Digital OM?


I don't know what they used to be, but my E-P3 is very fast. I'm not sure what you mean by "aperture dance" but I don't notice any issues with setting apertures on my Panasonic 25mm f/1.4.

Edited on Feb 07, 2012 at 04:33 PM · View previous versions



Feb 07, 2012 at 04:16 PM
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p.31 #19 · A Digital OM?


FlyPenFly wrote:
....

At F2, this image would look really different.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6777997243_48dd8f6662_m.jpg
Washington Square Park Piano Man by jaetography, on Flickr


I'm not sure I agree with that. I think it would look pretty similar at f/2.





Feb 07, 2012 at 04:18 PM
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p.31 #20 · A Digital OM?


Jonas B wrote:
...and related in some way, when using the Panasonic micro 25/1.4 with an Olympus camera, is the aperture dance still there?


As far as I know. I believe Olympus cameras always change aperture a lot in live-view with any lens, it is just that the 25/1.4 aperture mechanism is really loud so this behavior is obvious and annoying. Panasonic cameras don't adjust the aperture very much in live view so you don't notice the "problem".

Ken



Feb 07, 2012 at 04:19 PM
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