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Tariq Gibran wrote:
Local product - definitely. I would have loved to have been in the NYC Art/ Music scene at that time. I grew up not that far from Athens, GA hence R.E.M, B52's, etc. I guess I was influenced equally by East Coast/ West Coast as well as New British Invasion stuff (New Order, The Cure, Depeche Mode, Susie and the Banshies, The Clash, The Specials/ 2 Tone Ska, etc.).

So, about this OMD...


Me too, my gosh, this is bringing back a lot of old memories. I was all over the board, loved all kinds of music but never really got into Heavy Metal and I don't even want to talk about my west coast Rap phase Gosh, some of those "oldies" but goodies... the Pixies, Public Image Ltd., Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Fixx, Men Without Hats, Adam Ant, Cocteah Twins, Happy Mondays, General Public. Then there was the Australia craze with INXS and Midnight Oil and so forth, my surfer craze with Beach Boys, Jan and Dean, etc. Ska, Rockabilly. I guess growing up in Southern California gave me a mish mash of just about everything. And I can't leave out one of my favorite bands of all time - U2, but then again it seems a bit tright to mention them



Jan 28, 2012 at 01:20 PM
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Sounds like we all need to have a true, alt BYOM party. Great stuff. I was a HUGE Cocteau Twins fan. One of the bands I had a chance back then to see in concert that was not actually a big let down.


Jan 28, 2012 at 01:26 PM
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Spyro P. wrote:
C'mon

&feature=related" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">dont be shy


is it a bit worrying that so many people in this thread actually know who OMD is?
Maybe Oly got their target group wrong


On the contrary. They got their target group just right. Those with clouded eyes every time they see the OM letters....

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Jan 28, 2012 at 03:36 PM
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Tariq Gibran wrote:
Local product - definitely. I would have loved to have been in the NYC Art/ Music scene at that time. I grew up not that far from Athens, GA hence R.E.M, B52's, etc. I guess I was influenced equally by East Coast/ West Coast as well as New British Invasion stuff (New Order, The Cure, Depeche Mode, Susie and the Banshies, The Clash, The Specials/ 2 Tone Ska, etc.).



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Me too, my gosh, this is bringing back a lot of old memories. I was all over the board, loved all kinds of music but never really got into Heavy Metal and I don't even want to talk about my west coast Rap phase Gosh, some of those "oldies" but goodies... the Pixies, Public Image Ltd., Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Fixx, Men Without Hats, Adam Ant, Cocteah Twins, Happy Mondays, General Public. Then there was the Australia craze with INXS and Midnight Oil and so forth, my surfer craze with Beach Boys, Jan and Dean, etc. Ska, Rockabilly.
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Tariq Gibran wrote:
Sounds like we all need to have a true, alt BYOM party. Great stuff. I was a HUGE Cocteau Twins fan. One of the bands I had a chance back then to see in concert that was not actually a big let down.



It was the British stuff that held my interest the most (this this not to say the NY stuff was like less, there was just great volume of good stuff coming out of England), and you overlooked Elvis Costello, Nick Lowe (with and without Rockpile) and Graham Parker (all 3 of whom are STILL getting it done). Could also add Ian Dury and Blockheads -- actually there was a time I would buy anything from Stiff Records -- Lena Lovich, Wreckless Eric, Motorhead, Madness (I think I still have most of the obscure, rare Stiff records compilations). I'd also buy most of stuff out of 2 Tone Records as well, Specials, the Selector, Bad Manners, and my favorite, The (English) Beat. Surprised no one mentioned Squeeze (brilliant song writing from Difford and Tilbrook), or the Buzzcocks. A few years later I was buying everything out of the post-punk, goth-ish 4AD record label -- lead by my favorites Cocteau Twins (Tariq, I knew there was a reason I liked you) and Dead Can Dance (if you don't have it, get the "This Mortal Coil" recording -- post-punk, moody, pretentious brilliance from the folks at 4AD).

And, the best recording of the 1980's, or this era under discussion, was -- and there can be only one -- London Calling, by The Clash. Elvis, you're great, but even you can't touch that one. That said, I saw the Clash twice, and was disappointed both times. I saw the legendary concert at Bond in NYC (where Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five opened). It was just brutal to listen to -- just a wall of noise from the both the stage and the audience. Then I saw them at Shea Stadium when they opened for the The Who, and you could barely hear them. By the way, if you haven't seen the Joe Strummer documentary, by Julian Temple, "Joe Strummer - The Future is Unwritten", see it.

They don't make 'em like they used to.

So, where are we going to have this BYOM party?




Jan 28, 2012 at 08:49 PM
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Yep, 4AD - Lonely is an Eyesore compilation, This Mortal Coil, Dif Juz, Dead can Dance, Harold Budd + Cocteau Twins collaboration (The Moon and the Melodies) etc. This was music I lived with for quite a while. Man, it's been a while since I have heard some of this stuff. Later music which built on some of this such as Mogwai is pretty good imho.

Squeeze was awesome. Blown away by them in concert. We definitely need to figure out this BYOM party. Perhaps photo exhibit + music.



Jan 28, 2012 at 09:32 PM
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Lonely is an Eyesore! I have the video set on VHS -- I don't even know if I have a VHS player anymore (maybe stuffed in a box somewhere). Also on 4AD -- Throwing Muses, Clan of Xymox, X-Mal Deutschland, even Bauhaus was on 4AD for a while.

I came to Harold Budd from Brian Eno (God-like, Svengali that he is) with recording that included, "The Plateaux of Mirror" and "The Pavilion of Dreams". The collaboration with the Cocteau Twins was like 2 sides coming together. Their "The Moon and Melodies", that Tariq mentions, is brilliant. A wonderful recording. Budd has since done a few more collaborations with Robin Guthrie (of Cocteau Twins).

Well, I think we have now totally killed this thread. Seems like music is a lot more interesting than an underwhelming, disappointing, digital re-incarnation of the OM that fails to live up to its legend and legacy.
;-)




Jan 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM
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Artists are duly noted, some of them I know.

Maybe they should rename the new OM Digital the OMG. It would make top of the search list for sure...



Jan 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM
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Lotusm50 and Tariq, thank you for the trip down music memory lane So even if the OM-D is not FF, it can still cause quite a buzz


Jan 29, 2012 at 01:53 PM
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This is what happens when there is a vacuum of real info about the thread topic I guess. Apologies to any offended. We need more photo's of this E whatever OMD. And yes, I often thought I saw OMG everytime I read OMD.

Lotus, funny about how a lot of these people we are discussing are connected to a lot of other great music. I came to Harold Budd through the Cocteau Twins, then picked up The Pearl (Harold Budd, Brian Eno, Daniel Lanois) and the ones you mentioned. Of course, Brian Eno! Geez..Roxy Music, David Bowie, U2, Talking Heads, Ultravox...he touched everything. Daniel Lanois - who's solo work I really appreciate - also was a huge musical influence as a producer for so many, U2 of course being a huge one. Steve Lillywhite was another highly influential producer of great music of the time.



Jan 29, 2012 at 05:37 PM
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wjmeyer wrote:
Then there was the Australia craze with INXS and Midnight Oil and so forth, my surfer craze with Beach Boys, Jan and Dean, etc.


the best bit probably never reached you




Jan 29, 2012 at 05:50 PM
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Spyro, that was awesome, am I lame for never hearing of these guys My wife's Uncle was in a Punk Rock band in the 70's from NYC, I bet he knows a lot of this stuff more than me

Tariq, yes, when we are so close and there is not much coming from the rumor mill, it helps pass the time and anxiety. Another band just came to mind, anyone remember Soft Cell? Oh gosh, probably opening a whole new can of worms, but fun to reminisce



Jan 29, 2012 at 06:33 PM
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wjmeyer wrote:
Tariq, yes, when we are so close and there is not much coming from the rumor mill, it helps pass the time and anxiety. Another band just came to mind, anyone remember Soft Cell? Oh gosh, probably opening a whole new can of worms, but fun to reminisce


Yes, Tainted Love...Soft Cell. Good stuff but that song was overplayed so much it's hard to listen to anymore.

Simple Minds before they went too pop...New Gold Dream, Sparkle in the Rain?



Jan 29, 2012 at 06:43 PM
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True, very true, I remember still hearing "tainted love" in the late 80's a lot on the radio. Another big time favorite of mine was Big Country, should have added them to my Ausie list. Boom Crash Opera anyone? Echo & the Bunnymen, Camper Van Beethoven, Modern English, Yaz, the Eurythmics

I'm digging into my itunes and finding all kinds of stuff I haven't listened to for years



Jan 29, 2012 at 06:51 PM
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Back to the OM-D front, or at least somewhat related. So Canon makes a 4:3 G1X with a sensor that's a teansy bit bigger than 4/3, my guess is, like Fuji, Canon is testing the waters to see how many are interested in this style of body, and if it has some success but gets pressure for being a fixed lens, they already have the format and sensor and all that, all they need to do is make an interchangeable lens body and then some lenses. So, how many think we'll be seeing Canon competing with MFT in a year or two? I wouldn't be surprised, just wish Canon would have joined 4/3 but that is simply wishful thinking


Jan 29, 2012 at 06:55 PM
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wjmeyer wrote:
True, very true, I remember still hearing "tainted love" in the late 80's a lot on the radio. Another big time favorite of mine was Big Country, should have added them to my Ausie list. Boom Crash Opera anyone? Echo & the Bunnymen, Camper Van Beethoven, Modern English, Yaz, the Eurythmics

I'm digging into my itunes and finding all kinds of stuff I haven't listened to for years


Yes, your right. They ran Tainted Love into the ground.

Loved Big Country...but they are not Australian but Scots. Sad what later became of the lead singer (suicide If I recall). Everything else, yep.

Oh, that just reminded me of The Waterboys...Fisherman's Blues. Man.



Jan 29, 2012 at 06:56 PM
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Tariq Gibran wrote:
This is what happens when there is a vacuum of real info about the thread topic I guess. Apologies to any offended. We need more photo's of this E whatever OMD. And yes, I often thought I saw OMG everytime I read OMD.

Lotus, funny about how a lot of these people we are discussing are connected to a lot of other great music. I came to Harold Budd through the Cocteau Twins, then picked up The Pearl (Harold Budd, Brian Eno, Daniel Lanois) and the ones you mentioned. Of course, Brian Eno! Geez..Roxy Music, David Bowie, U2, Talking Heads,
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Well, since this thread is continuing...

Yes, Eno. The Man, the Legend. He MADE U2 what they are. I remember going to one of Eno's video exhibitions (late 1980's) in London. The Bono was there paying his respects to the master and he didn't stop talking about Eno. I think what has become the Edge's signature guitar sound is due to Eno's work with guitar "treatments". Eno collaboration with John Cale, "Wrong way Up" is great. And from Eno, I got to his side kick, Daniel Lanois -- who is well out of Eno's shadow by now. I love Lanois' solo albums. Great stuff, "Acadie" is a masterwork. And Lanois' work on and production of Emmy Lou Harris' Wrecking Ball, is brilliant, His production of Neil Young's Le Noise is a singular achievement.

Some of the "New Romantic" bands out of England were mentioned. The one band from this stuff whose members went on to do great things was Japan. IMHO, some of the best stuff of the genre especially their later album "Tin Drum". All of this was eclipsed by their unique singer David Sylvian. I was blown away when I first here a cut from Brilliant Trees over Swedish radio (as a grad student in Stockholm). This was then topped by his masterwork "Gone to Earth" (which had great guitar work on it from Robert Fripp), a recording noone should be without (IMHO). Later, Secrets of the Beehive, Dead Bees on Cake, the collaboration with Fripp, "Damage", all great. A truly innovative musician and poetic composer. He is totally unique. He's also worked with Harold Budd, and Jon Hassell (brilliant guy, also an Eno connection) and Roger Eno and done collaborations with Holger Czukay (from Can) and Ryuichi Sakamoto, More recently he has gone over the eclectic deep end -- but you can always expect something new an different from him. Surprising he has never worked with Brian Eno, as a most of people he has collaborated with have. Other Japan members, Mick Karn, Richard Barbieri, and Steve Jansen, have all done interesting, innovative stuff as well after the band split up (and they continue to collaborate with each other). Richard Barbieri over the last several years has been working with Steve Wilson in Porcupine Tree (also great stuff, and clear evidence that "progressive rock" has been re-born and re-made) -- which is also connected to Fripp and King Crimson (and I'm a big Fripp/Crimson fan as well). As Tarig suggests, you'll find that all the good stuff is connected in some way.

And don't get me started on folk music, as I can wax on endlessly about the magnificence of June Tabor, Richard Thompson, Pentangle (Bert Jansch, John Renbourn, Danny Thompson, Jackie McShee), Martin Carthy, Martin Simpson, Sandy Denny, Loudon Wainwright III, and Kate & Anna McGarrigle, and Hot Tuna (who account for some the best live performances I have ever experienced)...

Now if this post doesn't kill the thread, nothing will.
;-)




Jan 29, 2012 at 09:59 PM
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"The Bono", nice! Interesting thought about the Edges signature guitar sound. Right on about Lanois - Harris' Wrecking Ball is a great album. He re-made a lot of careers as a producer but I think his own work is overlooked. I saw him twice live, both very small bars/clubs. I had a girlfriend who was really into Japan/ David Sylvian but I was more into Peter Murphy's solo stuff at the time.

Damn, I wish they would post another OMD image. You just know someone keeps clicking the thread hoping to see the new camera and then goes, not this sh*t again!



Jan 29, 2012 at 10:30 PM
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U2.... This thread is officially dead to me. (where is the puke Emoticon when you need one.


Jan 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM
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'you'll find that all the good stuff is connected in some way.' Kevin Bacon?

Eno always reminds of the antacid called well, Eno, except he puts people to sleep. Roxy flew when he left - Ferry's genius took off. Sylvian's solo work is very good - instant nostalgia.

Boner was unlistenable even on the first album, then inexplicably became everyone's guy and most horrible, a celeb along the lines of fellow talent-free zombie - Geldof. Christ, those glasses, that ego, the screech, the mainstream company, the green politics despite the 747 full of equipment.

Crimson, once over the pretentious middle period, produced The Construction of Light, which goes away with me every time, along with a couple of Royksopp albums, Gato Barbieri's Latino America, Boards of Canada, Freddie Hubbard, Jim Hall's Concerto, early Jazzamor, oh and the finest music ever composed - Beethoven's glorious ninth. Little Alex was right about that one.

I am guessing the digi OM is not around yet, that is what I came here to read about. ;~)



Jan 30, 2012 at 01:13 AM
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I agree with LightShow here, I don't know if you red this LightShow, but if not, do:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=11worst



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