Gregg Heckler wrote:
"I was talking about lens elements, not blades.
AFS: 9 elements in 9 groups with 7 rounded blades
AF-D: 6 elements in 6 groups with 9 rounded blades"
Right John sorry. I'm obsessed with 9 blades.
That's what I suspected happened! Still a good discussion.
Two23 wrote:
It' the typical beginner's mistake to buy an extremely expensive camera and then throw a cheap consumer lens on it. The older "D" lenses are 20-25 yr. old design, and have pre-digital coatings. I've sold off my old "D" lenses, tried and passed on the newer consumer grade "G" lenses, and now only buy premium lenses such as Sigma f1.4. Would consider the latest Nikon f1.4 if they were better than the Sigma or Zeiss. Why go cheap on the most important thing--the lens?
Kent in SD
It almost sound like you mean that one can`t take good pictures with "old" lenses like the 85 1.8D (with digital bodies). In my opinion that`s VERY wrong! On my D3 the 85 1.8D really shines! For me the Sigma 1.4 wasn`t worth the extra $.
Gregg Heckler wrote:
Not according to the website, it has 7 blades. I doubt the bokeh is any different than the previous one unless they reshaped the blades. But it will be nice if it is.
You'll find a lenses boke has just as much to do with the lenses optical design and it's correction for spherical abberations as do the number of blades. The blades really only influence the shape of the out of focus highlights while the optical design will influence the overall character of the lens in regards to it OOF renderings.
Jammy Straub wrote:
You'll find a lenses boke has just as much to do with the lenses optical design and it's correction for spherical abberations as do the number of blades. The blades really only influence the shape of the out of focus highlights while the optical design will influence the overall character of the lens in regards to it OOF renderings.
Yes, plus, the blades do NOTHING when shooting wide open an the aperture is a perfect circle.
williamkazak wrote:
67mm filter size and no Nano coating. I am keeping my 105 F2 DC lens.
I see 67mm filter size as being a good thing (larger front objective) hopefully to eliminate any vignetting that might have occured (look what Sigma did with it's 50mm f/1.4 and not many are complaining about it's enormous filter size for a 50).
Yes, I was really hoping this would have the infamous Nano coating, but lets wait and see how it performs in the real world before we pass judgement. Nikon does claim it has SIC (Super Integrated Coating) so I'm not sure how this will compare to nano, but again, let's wait and see.
I for one am very excited about this lens as I have always been a fan of 85's and I think f/1.8 is fast enough in most situations.
Now, my dreams would come true if Nikon put out a 135mm f/2 with Nano coating, the 135L was one of my favorite lenses (if not the favorite lens) in my Canon aresenal and I've been really wanting that from Nikon
I went ahead and pre-ordered it. I have the "D" version and the only thing I didn't like about that lens is the focus ring rotating during auto focusing! If this lens is atleast as good as it's predecessor, then I'm happy.
When someone gets one I hope they throw some samples up soon! :-) I am waiting until March to see if I want it. I saw some samples but the photos are of nothing special so to me it was inconclusive.
I pre-ordered one about 3 weeks ago and I can't wait until they arrive. I ended up selling my 85mm f/1.8d because I hated that the ring rotated when auto focusing and the chromatic abberation was pretty bad. Hopefully the new version will display similar out of the box performance like the new 50.
It's humorous, assuming this is as good as the 50mm f/1.8G, Nikon may be on the way to having a budget friendly first class set of f/1.8 primes useful for discerning users.
All they need is an updated 24, 28, or 35mm.
I could totally see shooting with a 28mm f/2G, 50mm f/1.8G, 85mm f/1.8G and a $3800 D800.
Jammy Straub wrote:
It's humorous, assuming this is as good as the 50mm f/1.8G, Nikon may be on the way to having a budget friendly first class set of f/1.8 primes useful for discerning users.
All they need is an updated 24, 28, or 35mm.
I could totally see shooting with a 28mm f/2G, 50mm f/1.8G, 85mm f/1.8G and a $3800 D800.
Frode wrote:
It almost sound like you mean that one can`t take good pictures with "old" lenses like the 85 1.8D (with digital bodies). In my opinion that`s VERY wrong! On my D3 the 85 1.8D really shines! For me the Sigma 1.4 wasn`t worth the extra $.
Sure you can use old lenses if that's the look you want. I often am using lenses from 1855 (a George Edwards pillbox,) an 1850s Derogy Petzval, an 1865 Voigtlander Petzval, and now an 1840s vintage Grubb Petzval. I love the soft, uncoated look and low contrast. I did own the Nikon 85mm f1.8D and was extremely frustrated with it. Worst lens I've ever owned when it came to CA and flare. The lenses I have from pre-Civil War (<1860) performed better for me! True, I was using it as a general purpose/outdoor lens and not a portrait lens though. If I were looking for an 85mm lens right now and money was no limit, I'd definitely go for the Sigma 85mm f1.4. I've seen actual blow ups of what local wedding photographers have done with it.
