Now I know why you guys are all over the NEX-5n with Zeiss, Leica or Contax lenses, seems like the ultimate portable camera. I guess it's going to depend on the quality of the Fuji sensor compared to the Sony 16 megapixel. Thanks for posting that picture really helps!
14/1.4?! That would be seriously good news. I loved the 21/2 Zuiko on the A900, 14/1.4 on APS-C mirrorless would be really very interesting to me, although it would depend upon how it functioned with OVF. One would assume a 1.4 short tele would be in the works too then...
ricardovaste wrote:
Can someone confirm this? Having never got my hands on an x100 I'm unsure about focus... You have dof scale in the ovf, right? But what about focusing on a specific subject with ovf, are you just left guessing? That just wouldn't be good enough for fast normal to tele lenses...
no one cares, ricard....they just want to talk about shareholders and auto focus.
michaelwatkins wrote:
Yes, I still had the X100 when V1.11 came out; unlike many I did not notice marked improvement in AF performance, probably because I preferred manually activated AF mode via the AFL button more often than not. Switching to standard AF(S) allowed for a smaller AF box and if one didn't mind switching the focus mode back and forth that probably would be optimum use of the camera. Were AF faster, probably I would not have felt the need to keep knocking it out of AFS to MF mode to approximate zone focusing. If the depth of field indicator were more accurate that would have helped greatly.
I had high expectations for the X100 but found it a little clunky; the lens was good but not great. Sensor was very good, tones nice, sensitivity/noise really good. AF sub-par for a 2011 $1200 camera; Ergo issues with the dials, shape and position of the aperture ring - that one just didn't work for me at all and I'm a slave to my aperture ring (or control, as the case may be). That was a disappointment for me because I clearly remember seeing the physical ring and doing a fist pump(!) but the implementation was poor. An electronic control would have been preferable to a bad ring. What else? Lens flare, silly choice of mounting for the hood, a hood which often as not couldn't be ordered. Firmware issues would complicate use of the camera especially in changing conditions. Some firmware issues remain unresolved even though they are easy to address. Why is Auto ISO still buried? Even Fujifilm nods to this as a problem by indicating in the X Pro 1 that they've moved it to the ISO menu group. Why not fix the X100? Little handling things like this add up and make me wonder if they use photographers in the design of such systems.
Some of what I felt were issues won't be present on the X Pro 1 due to the different shutter and presumably better AF and maybe even better MF override. I'm glad they put a lock on the shutter speed / Mode dial to prevent it from being knocked out of A mode - that's a help. Hopefully the new EVF has reduced lag to a minimum. Hopefully the aperture ring is easier for hands like mine and that manual focus override of the focus by wire system -ride works well enough.
Based on how I got on with the X100 -- it wan't all horrible, my wife think's I loved it and to some extent I did but that was in comparison to carrying a DSLR around -- let's just say I'm skeptical as to whether Fujifilm will nail it with the X Pro 1. They might nail it enough to make it acceptable for me though. I'd feel more optimistic if they made more progress with the firmware but after watching one video it looks like maybe they've decided to invest resource time into new menuing options instead of core functionality.
I might be able to overlook handling of the camera if I'm mounting my own manual focus lenses since then all I'm depending on the camera is to manage exposure correctly and that is something the X100 did fine with. If that's the case the only reason for me to consider the camera is for the specifics of the sensor implementation....Show more →
Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you may have had a lemon to a certain degree. The lens on my X100 is the best 35/2 equiv. lens I have ever used on the APS format. It really makes me feel like I'm using a 1K+ quality lens and getting the camera for free.
Glad to hear initial reports of "improved" AF, but will have to wait yet. Did anyone see the dpreview video tests? Firing the shutter at 6fps, seems reasonable quiet, but not massively so... although hard to tell because of the quality of the audio and the background noise...
millsart wrote:
Honestly don't see the big deal about AF speed.
Even if the X-Pro did have blazing fast AF, what would the point be ? Going to buy a camera like that to sit on the baseline at a basketball game and do sports photography ? Probably not.....
Do shots of beaches, and cityscapes and park benches and flowers etc all move suddenly ??
Have Fuji themselves not said it's aimed at weddings/portrait professionals? I can certainly see the need for good auto-focus performance at wedding, things tend to move in such situations...
ricardovaste wrote:
14/1.4?! That would be seriously good news. I loved the 21/2 Zuiko on the A900, 14/1.4 on APS-C mirrorless would be really very interesting to me, although it would depend upon how it functioned with OVF. One would assume a 1.4 short tele would be in the works too then...
I suspect a 14/1.4 might require an external optical finder.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
I suspect a 14/1.4 might require an external optical finder.
On the video from "Fuji Guys" when they mentioned the m-mount adapters and the two custom focal length options you could add in, you could also see a few other pre-determined focal lengths... one of them was 21mm I think. Perhaps they have other magnifications built in? Grasping, I know... but a focusing scale in OVF would be really useful with a WA like that. On the other hand, if they did a real focusing ring focusing scale it would solve the problem, but that seems even more unlikely.... :/
So I guess it still depends on that EVF... which as far as I can tell just seems to be the same as the x100...
jcolwell wrote:
Local shop. Atlantic Photo Supply in Halifax. Brian, the President, doesn't have a line on it yet, but he will have soon (probably tomorrow). I'm confident he'll get one for me, in the 'first wave'. He's a great 'finder'.
Here's the estimated delivery time and price:
Hi Jim,
Looks like it's going to be 45 days or so (est.) before we see any stock.
At this point here are the expected retails:
X-Pro1 $1699.99
35/1.4 $ 599.99
60/2.4 $ 649.99
Once I have firm delivery dates I will update you.
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The camera's one drawback is that the autofocus isn't going to be as snappy as it is on other cameras. Fuji told us that this will be the case on the production models as well...
Spyro P. wrote:
it's not really an argument for or against buying a camera... its more a case that not all things photographic can be explained in traditional accounting terms.
I will have to remember this line if my accountant questions the Leica related purchases I made in 2011...
asleep wrote:
The camera's one drawback is that the autofocus isn't going to be as snappy as it is on other cameras. Fuji told us that this will be the case on the production models as well...
From that link "...which is going to annoy the hell out of you if you're used to a good point-and-shoot camera or DSLR".
The context is very important. P&S's have tiny sensors and thus huge inherent dof so AF can be snappy. Contrast AF will obviously fall short of the phase detect systems in DSLR's. So, if that's what Fuji said, it's obvious. IF they said it would not be as good as other competing CAF mirrorless cameos, that's another story. Right now, we have two completely different takes on the AF from Fuji so Context is everything.
asleep wrote:
The camera's one drawback is that the autofocus isn't going to be as snappy as it is on other cameras. Fuji told us that this will be the case on the production models as well...
Would have to wait on "accuracy" I guess, as simple speed isn't everything. Might almost be tempted to wait for a second generation body if the AF isn't good, and the EVF is below average... But on the other hand, I might just start the system and invest in the glass if they are promising more lenses like 14/1.4 and a 28mm pancake, as well as other bodies. Thanks for the link.
edwardkaraa wrote:
Someone I know was complaining about the AF of the Nex5 being way behind that of his old Canon 450D. CDAF has a long way to go in terms of speed, even if accuracy may be superior, so I too don't think it's specific to the X100.
There are a ton of complaints about the NEX-5N AF and it appears the Fuji X100 is not alone. Only the m4/3 and Nikon V1/J1 have truly fast CDAF at this stage.
dnhkng wrote:
Hmmm, by that logic, DONT BUY ONE!!!
If Leica and Kodak are unprofitable, it means they are selling cameras for less than it costs to make them. Therefore, every camera you buy puts them further into the red. Support the company by not buying their products!
Kodak made digital cameras no one wants to buy. Nothing innovative about them. What is strange is they can make good sensors.
! Very sad 
. Perhaps we start a xp1 fund together for "research" ;-)