michael49 wrote:
I realize that its cliche to say so, but "super" images generally have much more to do with lighting, technique and PP skills than gear.....
Shows the leather case and flash unit. Also some dimensions are given...
And XP1 vs. X100
And I like that Fuji is so open about other lenses being adapted to the mount. I think the danger of their own lenses being relegated as unneeded in this case is a bit different in that the native lenses should be the only ones that are usable via the optical aspect of the viewfinder. So you get the benefit of opening up your camera and easing the transition of M mount users and yet still maintain the relevance of your native lenses for those that want to use the full capabilities of the camera....Show more →
Great info on the dimensions. With the pancake 18mm lens, the X1 Pro is about 1.5 inches more in depth as compared to the X100. Not really too bad. The other dimensions are close enough to really not matter for most. Overall, the X1 Pro is not as large as I feared.
The new Fuji lenses for the XPro1 are already up on Amazon for pre-order. Prices are $499ea. for the 18/2 or 35/1.4 and the 60 is $599. Very reasonable if these lenses live up to expectations.
Nothing like putting the wagon in front of the horses! Lenses for sale before the camera is even officially announced.
Well, I've pre-ordered them. Will see how this goes.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
The new Fuji lenses for the XPro1 are already up on Amazon for pre-order. Prices are $499ea. for the 18/2 or 35/1.4 and the 60 is $599. Very reasonable if these lenses live up to expectations.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
Me too! Well, except for the 35 which should be available with the camera supposedly.
This is an Interesting tid bit on the lens pre order page:
Date first available at Amazon.com: February 9, 2011
Perhaps the camera will ship before March.
Not sure I'd trust Amazon for pre-orders. NEX-7's are turning up everywhere BUT amazon. Amzon still doesn't have a clue when they are shipping NEX-7's, including my first day pre-order (not very pleased about this, if you couldn't tell).
Lotusm50 wrote:
Not sure I'd trust Amazon for pre-orders. NEX-7's are turning up everywhere BUT amazon. Amzon still doesn't have a clue when they are shipping NEX-7's, including my first day pre-order (not very pleased about this, if you couldn't tell).
There has historically been "bad blood" between Sony and Amazon for some reason. Sony was very late actually selling on Amazon early on for instance.
Re Fuji, a lot of folks who pre-ordered Fuji X100's on Amazon received them very early on I believe. That said, I may pre-order at a few places to cover my bases.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
There has historically been "bad blood" between Sony and Amazon for some reason. Sony was very late actually selling on Amazon early on for instance.
Re Fuji, a lot of folks who pre-ordered Fuji X100's on Amazon received them very early on I believe. That said, I may pre-order at a few places to cover my bases.
It seems Amazon gets a lot more X100's than B & H for whatever reason.
alba63 wrote:
"classic" means here: "conventional cmos sensor", not the rumoured new organic layer sensor technology.
Weird. Isn't it supposed to have some special "irregular" color filter array with groups of 6 subpixels? Not exactly a classic sensor, unless you don't include the CFA in the definition of the word "sensor"...
edwardkaraa wrote:
An APS-C body larger than a FF body, that is very weird. Unless they plan to install a FF sensor in the same body sometime in the future?
Their x10 is also larger than other comparable cameras, compactness does not seem FUjis main concern. Unlikely that they will release an FF version: The lenses most likely do not cover an image circle for FF, otherwise they'd probably be more expensive...
Yes, the releasing of a new APS-C lens line seems a contra indication of a full frame camera from them any time soon.
I think marketing peeps at FUJI have thought this over and come to the conclu that the APS-C has matured enough (espec with their new sensor arrangement) and that the target group is photogs wanting a small-ish camera with small lenses.
I was REALLY hoping for full frame, or APS-H at least. But lets sink our teeth into the matter and chew it over once it is released... ...spit or swallow? We'll see...
kosmoskatten wrote:
Yes, the releasing of a new APS-C lens line seems a contra indication of a full frame camera from them any time soon.
I think marketing peeps at FUJI have thought this over and come to the conclu that the APS-C has matured enough
I've written them (and got answers) several times about the S5pro and a (never released) successor to it, and the Fuji reps have always repeated that they were observing the market evolution but were (at that time) conovinced that APS-c is enough.
From their current position where they just started again from almost zero (before the x100) it seems important for them to gain market share and to sell many cameras, not few high end units. Shoudl they succeed in selling lots of new x-pro 1 systems and lenses I can imagine that they start thinking about a new higher end system with larger sensor. They already had built a MF back years ago with 22MP that hardly left the beta status and only a few were sold in Japan as far as I know.
I'd however wish that they start designing their sensors themselves again, using a third party sensor base as in the x-pro 1 is certainly ok, but they can do better.
But it is only when they will be very successful with their new system that there is a chance that they take the next step. I think Fujifilm is the only company of any kind from who I tend to buy interesting products just to make them go on and "support" them. I'd never do that with a Canon/ Nikon product or any other type of product. I guess I qualify for the official status of "uncurable Fuji fanboi".
Well Bernie, I have worked with various Fuji products over the years and I hold them in high regard. With lenses they have a long and strong history and a good reputation.
With digital cameras they have some history but they need to ride the success of the X10 and X100 (I believe they are having a success with them) and fortify their position.
They will need to be better with the user interface as I still find them quirky.
I am sort of a Ricoh fanboy, but it is because I think the products are well thought out and very user friendly. Fuji is a giant and have more financial muscle than Ricoh and they have the means to be successful. I think they are cautious because the digital camera market is very volatile for the high volume cameras.
For niche cameras there is always a crowd, just not too small a niche. GXR is doing well enough to have a supporting magazine in Japan though many outside of Japan don't really get the system.
The problem is that the market is over saturated with bland cameras that are neither well thought out, have a nice lens line up and are not very user friendly. Yet, they are simply good enough for the average user. They will keep popping up in six month intervals or else the techie designers will not have anything to do to keep them busy on the various R&D teams.
