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p.1 #1 · Panorama Image Software


I have been working on doing interior shots, mostly small rooms that require a full view. Wall, floor and ceiling without distortion.Trying for a somewhat fast solution for post processing.
I have some luck using Microsoft ICE and also PS3 but not good on all projects.

I found a better program called Panorama Plus that did an amazing job, at least the free version #3 did. When upgraded to the new-improved #4 paid version it did not work. Too bad as I was very impressed with the trial program and wanted more features the paid listed. With this I still have to go into PS for several time consuming adjustments, which the paid version said it had.

Trying both Hugin, which I think has a lot of potential and another just as advanced program called Panorama Factory but so far had no results with the images I tried.These have a lot of options and It may be a case of finding the right mix to make them work. At least another 4 hour process I am sure.


Does anyone have experience shooting interior's and can recommend a program. I know most are made for outdoor shots but they do great inside if you can get the right mix of shot angles and software.
Any info appreciated.



Dec 14, 2011 at 06:42 PM
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p.1 #2 · Panorama Image Software


I use PTGui for stitching multi-row panos and making 360x180 interactive panoramas. The software works really well. You might also take a look at Autopano Pro.

Are you using a panoramic head for interiors? You can get away without one for many exterior shots, but stitching interiors is much easier if the lens is lined up over the no parallax point (NPP).



Dec 14, 2011 at 07:59 PM
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p.1 #3 · Panorama Image Software


i don't know how you did it but you managed to miss the only two really worth getting panorama stitching applications out there, PTGui and AutoPano Pro. for interior shooting, you really need to be using a proper panorama head and at least consider a nodal slide if you are going to be close to anything in the final FOV.

Herb...



Dec 15, 2011 at 10:44 AM
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p.1 #4 · Panorama Image Software


Tried PTGui, the version I tried required a lot of manual work. If I remember right.

Here's an indoor pano done using CS3 (resized only in CS4). Handheld, using a wideangle so most things done wrong. The same guy with a luggage card appears three times in this picture.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n610/MalbikEndar/airportpanorama-1.jpg




Dec 15, 2011 at 11:00 AM
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p.1 #5 · Panorama Image Software


that's why i don't use PTGui but some people swear by it. i have Autopano Pro set up that if it can't fully automatically stitch anything i give it, nothing else has a hope of doing it no matter how much manual intervention you use. PTGui has a mode for aligning to a known physical reference geometry, which AutoPano Pro doesn't, but that is almost never known for typical photographic situations.

Herb...

MalbikEndar wrote:
Tried PTGui, the version I tried required a lot of manual work. If I remember right.




Dec 15, 2011 at 12:53 PM
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p.1 #6 · Panorama Image Software


HerbChong wrote:
i don't know how you did it but you managed to miss the only two really worth getting panorama stitching applications out there, PTGui and AutoPano Pro. for interior shooting, you really need to be using a proper panorama head and at least consider a nodal slide if you are going to be close to anything in the final FOV.

Herb...


I knew some of you would have good information. Neither of those named came up in any search I did. Someone needs to help them with their SEO. I will look up the programs.
I am using a tripod with a head I can move vertical and horzontal but not a special panorama head. From what I have seen they are costly and I need to see if this kind of photography can make me money in my area before investing a lot.

Thanks to all for the information.



Dec 15, 2011 at 02:12 PM
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p.1 #7 · Panorama Image Software


Even something simple like a Nodal Ninja 4 will give you a lot better flexibility and stitching results: http://store.nodalninja.com/categories/Nodal-Ninja-4/


Dec 15, 2011 at 02:53 PM
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p.1 #8 · Panorama Image Software


I use Microsoft ICE. Truly excellent and free


Dec 15, 2011 at 03:39 PM
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p.1 #9 · Panorama Image Software


i shoot pano's of the interiors of RV by the hundreds. Far and away the best software I have found is PT Gui.

I can count one on hand the images that were not click and be done. Most have items 3 feet OR less from the lens...a parallax nightmare.

More than likely your problem is not software but rather hardware. You need a GOOD pano head carefully adjusted for EACH lens you use.

Parallax is the killer



Dec 15, 2011 at 05:26 PM
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p.1 #10 · Panorama Image Software


infocusinc wrote:
i shoot pano's of the interiors of RV by the hundreds. Far and away the best software I have found is PT Gui.

I can count one on hand the images that were not click and be done. Most have items 3 feet OR less from the lens...a parallax nightmare.

More than likely your problem is not software but rather hardware. You need a GOOD pano head carefully adjusted for EACH lens you use.

Parallax is the killer


Any suggestions for a good pano head.
Thanks



Dec 15, 2011 at 06:42 PM
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p.1 #11 · Panorama Image Software


Panoguide has an excellent list of panoheads:
http://www.panoguide.com/howto/panoramas/panohead.jsp

I've used Nodal Ninja ($ to $$) and RRS ($$$) products and been happy with both.



Dec 15, 2011 at 06:56 PM
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p.1 #12 · Panorama Image Software


Has anyone used Photoshop CS5 for panos?


Dec 15, 2011 at 10:45 PM
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p.1 #13 · Panorama Image Software


jefferies1 wrote:
Any suggestions for a good pano head.
Thanks



I use a manfrotto 303SPH with the leveling base but there are many good brands. Just make sure it can support the weight of the camera you plan on using. And a BIG thumbs up for he leveling base....

I don't waste a lot on money pano cameras, even thought I have the top of the line Canons. The 450D is weight, quality and priced right for the task



Dec 15, 2011 at 11:39 PM
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p.1 #14 · Panorama Image Software


i hope that they improved it considerably over CS4. CS4 handles only simple situations well.

Herb...

halie wrote:
Has anyone used Photoshop CS5 for panos?




Dec 16, 2011 at 11:18 AM
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p.1 #15 · Panorama Image Software


That's what I was afraid of. I need to do some panos, but both my desktops with PTgui installed on them are in comas. Only my laptop with CS5 is active.

Edited on Dec 16, 2011 at 01:37 PM · View previous versions



Dec 16, 2011 at 01:24 PM
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p.1 #16 · Panorama Image Software


the only thing to do is to try and see if it is good enough.

Herb...



Dec 16, 2011 at 01:29 PM
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p.1 #17 · Panorama Image Software


Yeah, I'll have to give it a shot, thanks. I thought PTgui worked really well, but it's download only, no disk. Makes it a pain to switch it from old computers to a different one when the old ones won't come to life.


Dec 16, 2011 at 01:37 PM
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p.1 #18 · Panorama Image Software


halie wrote:
Yeah, I'll have to give it a shot, thanks. I thought PTgui worked really well, but it's download only, no disk. Makes it a pain to switch it from old computers to a different one when the old ones won't come to life.



Just download it again. You do have your serial numbers somewhere else where you can access them...right?



Dec 16, 2011 at 01:57 PM
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p.1 #19 · Panorama Image Software


Haha, yeah, but I don't remember where. I think I found them last time from the PTgui website, like from my account or something. I was thinking that I would have to deactivate it on one of my dead computers before I could install it on a new one, but maybe that's not required. Will have to try it and see.


Dec 16, 2011 at 02:04 PM
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p.1 #20 · Panorama Image Software


This was done with CS5 and it did great. The camera was tripoded, butjust on a regular ball head, so just visual lining up. CS5 has trouble with lenses wider then about 35mm on a FF cam. A 50mm or longer works best

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.381683932263.158016.753692263&type=3#!/photo.php?fbid=381683937263&set=a.381683932263.158016.753692263&type=3&theater



Dec 16, 2011 at 06:05 PM
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