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utildayael
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I'm partially embarassed to post this.

I received quite a substancial gift from the wife of a full set of Nikkor PC-E lenses. [24 / 45 / 85]

Great glass! Some of the best MF glass I've ever had the pleasure of using. Very sharp and very easy to focus on a D3s.

Now the hard part... I don't really know how to use them!

Shifting I understand and have used that feature quite a bit to adjust my standing angle. For example, when I'm on the edge of a cliff taking a photo fo a valley it is handy to be able to shift the lens to get me "virtually" further off the cliff edge. Same deal for getting closer to the water when shooting creeks/waterfalls. Lots of uses here especially in times where it is not possible or practical to physically move the camera.

However, beyond that bit... I'm not sure what else to do with them. I've messed with tilt and I have mixed results. If I am doing macro work I understand how I can tilt down and have more in focus since I've "angled" my focus plane. Read some articles online but nothing has been able to really cement for me how to use this properly aside from doing little macro work. I read about the Schaumberg Principle and my head exploded.

Anyone have a good primer on using tilt [and shift if I'm missing anything there]? Bonus points if its Nikon PC-E specific tho I'd imagine tilt and shift is really about the same on tilt-shift lenses, view cameras, bellows, etc just that the tilt-shift lenses have more limitations on range of tilt and shift...

Thanks



Oct 26, 2011 at 08:16 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · How to Tilt-Shift


They make excellent macro lenses.

You can get the plane straight where it is impossible to achieve any other way.

Try it with some floral macros.



Oct 26, 2011 at 08:21 AM
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It sounds like you have a pretty good feel for shift. I'll add a few things. Often times, this is used for architecture. Let's say you are shooting a 3 story building, and you are standing across the street from it. With a normal lens, you would need to tilt the lens up to capture the entire building. This leads to perspective distortion since the bottom of the building will be much larger than the top of the building. To maintain a proper perspective, you need to keep the camera level. The solution is to shift the building down into view while keeping the camera level. To make best use of this, you should have a level in the hotshoe of your camera. If you simply eyeball it, your camera might not be level, and you can over shift the lens, resulting in a top of the building that is larger than the bottom.

This can also be used while shooting in nature. Let's say you are shooting in a forest, and want to shoot slightly upward but keep the trees perfectly straight up and down. Simply level your camera, then use shift for your proper composition.

Let's take it a step further. Let's say you want to do a panoramic photo. Set the camera up for a horizontal shot, and shift all the way to the left. Take a shot, shift to the middle, take a shot, then shift to the right, and take a shot. They will stitch together very well, creating a simple panoramic setup.

Now, if you turn your camera vertically, you can do the same. Rotate the lens, then shift to the left, and then to the right. You'll create an image that's more of a 4x5 aspect ratio, but with increased resolution.

As for tilt, this is something that is useful for seemingly expanding your DOF. Just as you noted, you are able to angle the plane of focus so you can cover both a foreground and background element. This works best in a shot like this:

http://www.benhorne.com/images/cover4.jpg

Here, I have the foreground tack sharp, and all the way out to the horizon is also tack sharp. This is a prefect example of using a bit of front tilt. I just angled the lens down slightly.

My mantra is to focus for the foreground, tilt for the background, then repeat the steps to fine tune your tilt.

For the next shot, I used swing --- which is the same thing as tilt, but when you rotate the lens so it is now left and right rather than up and down.

http://www.benhorne.com/images/cover3.jpg

As you can see, I have the cliff in focus on the left, then the plane of focus diagonally follows this cliff face all the way out to the background. Be careful not to tilt/swing too far, or you will lose the background.

You might have noticed that this shot of the cliff also has some shift applied. The camera is perched on the edge of the cliff, but the view is downward. I used the extreme of my shift to get as close as I could, but I still couldn't get the exact composition, so I had to angle the camera downward a bit as well.

These examples were shot on an 8x10 view camera, but the exact same principles apply to your great nikon PC-E lenses. In the context of your D3s, you will need to consider getting an LCD loupe and using live view to see the true placement of your plane of focus while tilting. Looking through the viewfinder while working with the 24mm will be difficult to determine the plane of focus. If you use live view, and magnify the image, you will have a much better feel for how accurate you are. This is just like how I would put a loupe against the ground glass of my camera. The loupe simply allows you to view the screen outdoors without worrying about glare. Check out the Hoodman Hoodloupe. They're great for this.




Oct 26, 2011 at 08:41 AM
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Thanks for the great info Ben! I do have a Hoodman Loupe and use it for field review as well as difficult focus situations like you've noted. It's very handy for that!

So you focus on the foreground objects and then in applying tilt you will see the background objects "come into focus" so to speak?



Oct 26, 2011 at 08:54 AM
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utildayael wrote:
Thanks for the great info Ben! I do have a Hoodman Loupe and use it for field review as well as difficult focus situations like you've noted. It's very handy for that!

So you focus on the foreground objects and then in applying tilt you will see the background objects "come into focus" so to speak?


That is correct. Sometimes you need to repeat the process a few times though. Sometimes, tilting for the background will throw the foreground focus off a bit, so you will need to refocus, then retilt. It doesn't take long.



Oct 26, 2011 at 09:14 AM
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So basically I am aiming a plane. If its a landscape in landscape-orientation and say its a scene similiar to your sample photo [the one that looks like Death Valley] you would level the camera to the scene and tilt down slightly to adjust the plane?

I'll have to get out and shoot some scenes to mess with it. All the stuff online I saw confused me since you are angling your field of focus downward, what happens to the tall background objects? [mountains, trees, buildings, etc] since effectively what you're trying to accomplish [in most cases] is apparent infinite depth of field. [not counting the fake miniture effect where you extreme tilt to make your DOF a vertical or horizontal slice] ...

I also noticed on the PC-E you can rotate in more than just 90 degree increments. In what scenario would I not want to have the rotation at a 90 degree mark? It would end up with like... diagonal shift or tilt...



Oct 26, 2011 at 11:17 AM
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It's an iterative process best done with live view (a virtual ground glass). Focus on the foreground then tilt a bit to get the background more focus, then refocus to get the foreground in focus again then tilt more to get the background in focus etc. repeat until both are in focus.

IMO tilt shift lenses are largely a total waste of time/cash on 135 format unless you need front rise/fall or you are a gimmick loving wedding photog that likes making the b+g look like miniature toy figures. Use helicon focus and dof stack frames without this hassle and leave movements to view cameras.



Oct 26, 2011 at 02:27 PM
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Mark_L wrote:
IMO tilt shift lenses are largely a total waste of time/cash on 135 format unless you need front rise/fall or you are a gimmick loving wedding photog that likes making the b+g look like miniature toy figures. Use helicon focus and dof stack frames without this hassle and leave movements to view cameras.


*shrug* They are very sharp primes with large image circles so thats a bonus with filters.



Oct 26, 2011 at 02:42 PM
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I love the the TS lenses although I find the shift more useful with the wides and the tilt more useful with the short teles. In particular, shift-stitching is great with a 24 to increase the angle of view and increase the MP for large prints. The main thing to keep in mind is that the DOF is not really increased, only the plane of focus tilted, so for example it is possible to have foreground and background set to in focus, but not everything in between may be in focus. Practice tilting and checking the plane of focus with the live view or image review.

I think you mean Scheimpflug, not Schaumberg.

EBH



Oct 26, 2011 at 03:34 PM
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Here's Moose Peterson's Handy How To Use a 24mm PC-E video link:

http://www.moosepeterson.com/blog/2010/07/14/using-the-pc-e-lens/




Oct 26, 2011 at 03:39 PM
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This helped me better understand T/S lenses. Look under camera lenses for the tutorial.

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/camera-equipment.htm

Here is another good tutorial. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/nikon_24_pc.shtml


Cheers.



Oct 26, 2011 at 06:34 PM
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Ben Horne wrote:
http://www.benhorne.com/images/cover4.jpg

http://www.benhorne.com/images/cover3.jpg


I'm no expert, but couldn't these shots have been achieved just as easily by using a small aperture? It's not like they are particularly close, and they are still, so a long exposure would compensate for any loss of light. What am I missing?



Oct 26, 2011 at 07:29 PM
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OccAeon wrote:
I'm no expert, but couldn't these shots have been achieved just as easily by using a small aperture? It's not like they are particularly close, and they are still, so a long exposure would compensate for any loss of light. What am I missing?



Hmmm in a word, no. Using smaller apertures on 35mm introduces a whole new set of obstacles, and of course output doesn't even compare; 35 vs 8x10.





Oct 26, 2011 at 07:42 PM
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OccAeon wrote:
I'm no expert, but couldn't these shots have been achieved just as easily by using a small aperture? It's not like they are particularly close, and they are still, so a long exposure would compensate for any loss of light. What am I missing?


Diffraction robs resolution at increasingly small apertures. In some cases the apertures would be insanely small to achieve sufficient DOF and not even available on the standard lenses.

EBH



Oct 26, 2011 at 07:46 PM
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OccAeon wrote:
I'm no expert, but couldn't these shots have been achieved just as easily by using a small aperture? It's not like they are particularly close, and they are still, so a long exposure would compensate for any loss of light. What am I missing?



Maximum sharpness is achieved only at the focus plane. Outside of that plane, objects that are within the DOF may appear sharp if the image is not enlarged that much and viewed from a sufficient distance. You can read up on the DOF concept on wikipedia. It's not a scientific concept that can be calculated precisely like gravity (even though some DOF calculators may lead you to believe that). Instead it is a rule of thumb of what part of an image may appear sharp if one does not look too closely. So for the small web posting above, yes you will probably be right, one might have achieved a sharp image by stopping down. But once you make a poster, that will no longer be the case.

With a TS lens, one can tilt the plane of focus to match the plane of the subject, so everything on that plane will be critically sharp even at high enlargements.



Oct 26, 2011 at 08:02 PM
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Thorsten wrote:
Maximum sharpness is achieved only at the focus plane. Outside of that plane, objects that are within the DOF may appear sharp if the image is not enlarged that much and viewed from a sufficient distance. You can read up on the DOF concept on wikipedia. It's not a scientific concept that can be calculated precisely like gravity (even though some DOF calculators may lead you to believe that). Instead it is a rule of thumb of what part of an image may appear sharp if one does not look too closely. So for the small web posting above, yes
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Okay, if you say so. Maybe I'm just trying to talk myself out of another unnecessary (for me) lens :-).



Oct 26, 2011 at 08:28 PM
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utildayael wrote:
So basically I am aiming a plane. If its a landscape in landscape-orientation and say its a scene similiar to your sample photo [the one that looks like Death Valley] you would level the camera to the scene and tilt down slightly to adjust the plane?

I'll have to get out and shoot some scenes to mess with it. All the stuff online I saw confused me since you are angling your field of focus downward, what happens to the tall background objects? [mountains, trees, buildings, etc] since effectively what you're trying to accomplish [in most cases] is apparent infinite depth
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You're aiming a plane that will expand into a wedge as you stop down, so you definitely have the right way of thinking about it. Here's another example for discussion:

http://benhorne.com/images/fa0021.jpg

On this shot, I have important foreground, midground, and background. I want to get all in focus. I used tilt for this shot. I focused for the foreground, then tilted so that the plane of focus crossed just above the trees in the background. As I stopped down a ways, the plane of focus broadened into a wedge, and also contains the distant shore and all the mid-ground detail.

Had I simply focused the plane so it ran parallel to the surface of the water, the tree tops and the cliff would be blurry.

If I am shooting a scene with foreground trees, tilt is no longer effective. You will have a tree that is sharp at the bottom, and blurry at the top. That's where you just need to stop down, or do some digital focus blending techniques.

There may be some shots where you have to sacrifice midground if you wish the foreground and the background to be sharp. Here's an example of that:

http://benhorne.com/images/fa0005.jpg

It's impossible to tell from the web, but my plane of focus starts at the foreground, skims over the landscape, and touches just below the top of the rear rock formation. When I stopped down my aperture to expand this plane into a wedge of focus, the downslope portion of the midground gets a bit soft. I don't see it as a flaw, it's just a fact of life.

Last week, I was at the San Diego Museum of Photography Arts, and they had several Ansel Adams prints on display. One was the famous Monument Valley photo. It was fascinating to view as a fellow 8x10 photographer because I could see his thought process by looking at the print. He tilted the front element to achieve focus on the foreground rocks and the distant mittens. In the process, the bottom of the hillside, just behind the rocks is quite soft. He likely used somewhere around f/45 or f/64, but it just wasn't enough to get everything. If anything, it helped simplify the shot, and set the foreground off from the midground.









Oct 26, 2011 at 08:47 PM
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My congrats for your wife!


Oct 26, 2011 at 08:47 PM
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Ben's photos were taken with an 8x10 camera, and probably with a lens in the 200-300mm range. Stopping down will only go so far. Movements are a must in near far shots like these, at these focal lengths.


Oct 26, 2011 at 08:51 PM
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OccAeon wrote:
I'm no expert, but couldn't these shots have been achieved just as easily by using a small aperture? It's not like they are particularly close, and they are still, so a long exposure would compensate for any loss of light. What am I missing?


They would be impossible to shoot on 8x10 without use of tilt or shift. It may be tough to tell from the web presentation, but in the Grand Canyon shot, you wouldn't be able to stop down far enough to get both foreground and background in the photo. The cliff face on the left side is only a few feet from the camera, and the far cliffs on the right are several miles away. I shot this with equivalent to a 50mm lens on 35mm.

The Death Valley shot is somewhere around a 24mm equivalent, so that could be stopped down far enough to achieve the effect, but you will then suffer from diffraction, and the image will get a bit soft. If I were to shoot that with digital, I could use a D700 and a 24mm PC-E. I could shoot it at f/11, and be razor sharp from foreground to background.

Having a PC-E lens is fun, but not truly necessary with modern techniques. Many photographers are bracketing their focus at the sharpest aperture of a lens (usually around f/8 or f/11), then letting photoshop align the images, then use only the sharpest portion of each one. It's a very good technique, but certainly requires some time in the digital darkroom.

Oh, and just for kicks, all of my Large Format lenses are Nikon lenses. They made LF lenses up until the early 2000's. :-)



Oct 26, 2011 at 08:53 PM
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