p.2 #1 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
If you are on a Mac there are several really good front ends for amazon s3. Ber in mind that with carbonate and similar if you delete a file, it's deleted there.
p.2 #2 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
BuLLets wrote:
Storing 750 gigs of online data for you @ $5 per month is not in the long run going to be sustainable. That's all I said. I have no idea if they are going to go out of business, nor do I care. Just a simply fact $5 for 750 gigs of online storage is not economically sustainable for a business wanting to be profitable.
And yes, I do backup my stuff my way. And it's not via 'cloud' storage.
You should read up on the Backblaze business model. Those folks are innovative. They know what they're doing.
Best of luck with your data.
Oct 10, 2011 at 01:01 PM
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p.2 #3 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
p.2 #4 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
h00ligan wrote:
If you are on a Mac there are several really good front ends for amazon s3. Ber in mind that with carbonate and similar if you delete a file, it's deleted there.
That is true, but there is a significant delay before the files are deleted. It gives you time to recover the deleted files. That's what happened to me. I could recover files I accidentally deleted over 2 weeks ago.
Oct 10, 2011 at 01:58 PM
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p.2 #5 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
Tom K. wrote:
I have over 750,000 MBs of data on Backblaze. The initial upload takes from days to a week or more (depending on your upload speed). Once that is done then it keeps up as you add files to your disk.
When I did my initial upload I never even noticed Backblaze working in the background. I do have a very fast cable connection so my uploads are quick. This type of cloud storage was unthinkable in the dial up days.
Everything is moving to the cloud. It's inevitable.
I have over 6 TB of data to backup. Then the low cost places are too slow. Both to upload. Or getting back if you would loose everything. i have tried and used 3 of those low cost online comapanies before. And it's not my connection. I have 100 mb/s broadband.
This is what Backblaze say on their website:
"If your computer is online, on a typical high-speed home Internet connection, you will be able to backup approximately 2 to 4 GB per day"
It's the same as Carbonite had when I used them. It will take years to upload just one large hard drive
And just to upload a typical 32GB CF card after one day shooting will take 2 weeks
p.2 #6 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
I tried using Mozy Home for picture backup, but it was too slow. I know use alternating hard drive backups, with Second Copy software keeping track of what needs to be updated. Works for me.
p.2 #7 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
What happens if your "cloud" solutions provider goes under tomorrow? Or they have a massive hardware failure, or if they have a security breach and your data is in the hands of someone else? I don't think "cloud" anything is inevitable. It has pros and cons like any other solution to a complex problem.
I know this is OT and not what the OP asked for, but I can't help but make a comment.
p.2 #8 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
jstephens62 wrote:
I tried using Mozy Home for picture backup, but it was too slow. I know use alternating hard drive backups, with Second Copy software keeping track of what needs to be updated. Works for me.
I tried Mozy, Backblaze and Carbonite. And they where all very very slow
p.2 #9 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
slrl0ver wrote:
What happens if your "cloud" solutions provider goes under tomorrow? Or they have a massive hardware failure, or if they have a security breach and your data is in the hands of someone else? I don't think "cloud" anything is inevitable. It has pros and cons like any other solution to a complex problem.
I know this is OT and not what the OP asked for, but I can't help but make a comment.
p.2 #10 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
I'm a fan of the "cloud" solutions for sharing files but as a backup solution (single) it's too iffy. I use Dropbox a lot for giving clients access to contact sheets and even finished artwork.
I think off-site storage combined with a good backup schedule/practice is sufficient. Find a friend with whom you can swap backups with.
A company called cloudstore has a really nice system that is essentially a Drobo with internet access. It's available to you wherever you have internet access and can also serve clients the same way. Last I saw it was about 300 bucks for a 2TB solution.
p.2 #11 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
slrl0ver wrote:
or if they have a security breach and your data is in the hands of someone else?
Carbonite allows you to manage the encryption key so their servers don't have a copy of the un-encrypted data (their software encrypts locally but technically they could be stealing the key), although it limits your flexibility.
I let them manage my key BUT anything I don't want people to see is pre-encrypted and carbonite is set to backup the encrypted location - zero risk they can see the key and almost zero risk they can un-encrypt without the key.
p.2 #12 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
The cloud is over-rated. It is not going to take over. It's expensive and throttled.
The way to think: a file hardly exists unless it is on three drives, one of them in a second location.
I use bare 1.5 TB drives in an internal bay in the machine to back up to. Once a month I swap the drive for the one in my safe deposit box at the bank a few miles away. I keep a DVD or two of my best portfolio level photographs as well. I keep a couple DVDs worth of encrypted files on a web site server, from which I also get several websites served, professional email services that do not have "hotmail" as a domain, and other services. (Think of it as a mini-cloud.) So my most important files exist in five copies in three locations.
Disk storage on bare drives is running about $60 per TB if you shop carefully. It is only getting cheaper. Use a cloud for a year and you're spending more than that. That's how they can afford to stay in business and reap handsome profits.
Try to recover your files in bulk in case of fire or theft, and you'll pay even more if you can get them at all. The cloud companies aren't very interested in TeraBytes of traffic or in FedExing hard drives, though some will or at least advertise they will.
Just make sure the cloud isn't parked in Romania or Russia or places where copyright is weak and organized crime is strong.
Tom K. wrote:
Everything is moving to the cloud. It's inevitable.
Nope. Not everything. It's not inevitable. Lots of people thought Napster and MySpace were inevitable.
p.2 #14 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
These services are too slow and hence not dependable. I have a 4TB and a 6TB both in RAID format and with swappable disks and pretty fast with 800FW. I worry about having someone else in charge of storing and protecting my work.
p.2 #15 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
Lars Johnsson wrote:
I have over 6 TB of data to backup. Then the low cost places are too slow. Both to upload. Or getting back if you would loose everything. i have tried and used 3 of those low cost online comapanies before. And it's not my connection. I have 100 mb/s broadband.
This is what Backblaze say on their website:
"If your computer is online, on a typical high-speed home Internet connection, you will be able to backup approximately 2 to 4 GB per day"
It's the same as Carbonite had when I used them. It will take years to upload just one large hard drive
And just to upload a typical 32GB CF card after one day shooting will take 2 weeks...Show more →
Well.......with 6 terabytes of data you're right about the upload size and time it would take. In a perfect world with fiber to the door then maybe. But 6TB is just not practical to upload. Cloud storage is certainly not for 100% of computer users. Most, but not all would benefit though.
p.2 #16 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
jstephens62 wrote:
I tried using Mozy Home for picture backup, but it was too slow. I know use alternating hard drive backups, with Second Copy software keeping track of what needs to be updated. Works for me.
I use Second Copy as well. Just set it and forget it.
p.2 #17 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
slrl0ver wrote:
What happens if your "cloud" solutions provider goes under tomorrow? Or they have a massive hardware failure, or if they have a security breach and your data is in the hands of someone else?
p.2 #20 · Online Backups/Recovery and Access of Computer Files
I have thought about backing up to a cloud but I wonder why everyone is uploading their RAWs and JPEGs without encryption. Is it that save? Isn't there the usual problem of data leaks? Whatdoyouthink?
