photolove84 wrote:
Yea, except it's a celebrity wedding. So it's kinda like saying "This celebrity gave the photographers time. If you want to get photos like a celebrity, you have to give the photographers time. "
Perhaps. But then that depends on the reader's perception of the celebrity's status. I think anyone can speculate a lot of different thoughts out of it so I'll side with the tons of research already done on the subject. It's not really up for debate.
TheGE wrote:
A bit off topic but maybe interesting...
I can understand why you'd think that, but that line makes me wince. Because it's inadvertently saying "hey all you couples out there is wedding land, not giving time to your photographer and not trusting them is the popular majority crowd behavior. And Prezant and Mosier wish they could have less of that themselves."
In his book, "Influence", Robert Cialdini points out how when you mention what the majority of others do, even as a negative, it actually backfires by sending the message "this is what everyone else does, so it's ok to do it." Interesting stuff! He found, for example, that when a hotel chain changed its signs in the rooms from "Please don't take the towels" (which inadvertently sent the message that everyone steals towels and thus encouraged towel theft) to "Other guests who've stayed in this room cooperated with out policy of not taking towels" (or something like that), that it actually reduced pilferage. Interesting.
In any case, JP, awesome f*cling article. Jeff, good to see you got your primary's back. That's really the way it should be. . Much love and success to the both of you.
TheGE wrote:
A bit off topic but maybe interesting...
I can understand why you'd think that, but that line makes me wince. Because it's inadvertently saying "hey all you couples out there is wedding land, not giving time to your photographer and not trusting them is the popular majority crowd behavior. And Prezant and Mosier wish they could have less of that themselves."
In his book, "Influence", Robert Cialdini points out how when you mention what the majority of others do, even as a negative, it actually backfires by sending the message "this is what everyone else does, so it's ok to do it." Interesting stuff! He found, for example, that when a hotel chain changed its signs in the rooms from "Please don't take the towels" (which inadvertently sent the message that everyone steals towels and thus encouraged towel theft) to "Other guests who've stayed in this room cooperated with out policy of not taking towels" (or something like that), that it actually reduced pilferage. Interesting.
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photography aside...most of what Cialdini remarks about is generally true. We just did a big study on this at my school with surveys for parents, teachers, and staff. General consensus was that we are spending most of our time telling our students NOT to do something and then getting mad at them when they do what we tell them not to do. Spend more time telling someone what they should be doing in a positive way and the outcome will be more favorable.
So ya I agree the article was worded very badly.
You know what i really have come to like about FM? There doesnt seem to be an ounce of jealousy or resentment when others do well for themselves. In fact, its the opposite. We use terms like "our boy" and "our very own" coupled with praise and well wishes.
canerino wrote:
You know what i really have come to like about FM? There doesnt seem to be an ounce of jealousy or resentment when others do well for themselves. In fact, its the opposite. We use terms like "our boy" and "our very own" coupled with praise and well wishes.
Its awesome to be a part of this community.
[internetnonsense] I saw Jason the night before he shot this wedding and I told him good luck. He then proceeds to do a really good job. Coincidence? Doubtful. Frankly I'm appalled that I wasn't mentioned in the article seeing as how I'm basically responsible for how well the whole thing went. [/internetnonsense]
Jason, man I had a blast working this wedding with you, and every word I said about you was from the heart. You really rocked this wedding. It was awesome having Katy there too. I can't stress enough how poised and together Jason was at this wedding. It can be extremely easy to get consumed with the scope of a wedding like this and it just goes to show that you are not only a great photographer, but someone who can take a step back and peel away the celebrity and find who your clients really are as people. This shows through every photo. So honored you asked me to come along for the ride!
Very nice article and as mentioned very well deserved. Interestingly, a bit after this wedding my mother emailed me a link to the photos. I have no clue why. She's not into football or wedding photography. I guess they were just that good. (and for the record I had seen them already, but being a good son I didn't mention that )
. Much love and success to the both of you.
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