old(er) gear and not changing at least thru 2013... (2) 1Ds2, (2)1D2n, 16-35 (v1), 24-105, 24-70, 70-200IS (v1), 3-580 EX (v1). End of 1213 will look at 1Ds3's and upgrading zooms.
Interesting thread. Upgraded to 2 5d mk II and within two months went back to my 5d's. Just like the colors, files and feel. One mk II stays in the bag for high iso situations. Just picked up a 1Ds mk II. Can not wait, going to be my tele body (135, 85, 70-200).
I generally try to pick up the last generation of gear if I can, it's tried and true and generally a little cheaper. Just because something new comes out doesn't mean your 5D classic stops working.
I generally try to pick up the last generation of gear if I can, it's tried and true and generally a little cheaper. Just because something new comes out doesn't mean your 5D classic stops working.
I'm sorry y'all. I want the latest and greatest. That's why I'll have the Canon 1DX in my hands in 4 weeks. Do I need it? F*ck no. But I want it. And what I want. I get.
MarcAnthony wrote:
I'll have the Canon 1DX in my hands in 4 weeks. Do I need it? F*ck no.
Can you justify it in that it will earn its keep by getting you enough more business to pay for itself (say $2000 more a year or whatever) that you couldn't have gotten with your current gear?
Was going to write a post in praise of my 5Dc's, I see this is an old thread and I did that almost exactly a year ago, nice to see nothing has changed! I'm still yet to see a single camera out there which I would see as a replacement.
D. Diggler wrote:
Can you justify it in that it will earn its keep by getting you enough more business to pay for itself (say $2000 more a year or whatever) that you couldn't have gotten with your current gear?
Nope. It wouldn't affect my bottom line. People don't hire photographers because of their gear. It's not even an "ego" thing. It just looks like it is going to be an amazing camera.
A skilled surgeon can perform surgery with a butter knife but if you give them the right tools they'll perform so much better.
When the shutter explodes it's time for a new camera. If you buy good gear it will last a long time and make you a lot of money. The camera is just a tool, they all do the same basic thing take a photograph. Wedding it’s more about being in the right place at the right time.
i really dont consider a 5D Classic "Older"...i mean, yeah it's older, but not really in the sense of "it's going to hold you back"...it's full frame, 12mp, gives fairly clean files at 1600, has a larger screen...
when i think of OLDER, i think like nikon d100, d70, canon 20d, 30d, canon 1D, Nikon D1, and POSSIBLY d2h...not really the d2x, since it's 12mp....it's high iso isn't STELLAR....if i was stuck with picking any of these bodies listed, OR a 5d Classic, i'd pick the 5D in a heartbeat....
and someone mentioned using 2 D300's....D300 def isn't "older"....would you call a 7D older? they're the same level camera from different manufacturers...
jfnphotography wrote:
When the shutter explodes it's time for a new camera. If you buy good gear it will last a long time and make you a lot of money. The camera is just a tool, they all do the same basic thing take a photograph. Wedding it’s more about being in the right place at the right time.
I've thought about this a lot, and if/when the shutter goes out on my 5Dc, I plan on having it replaced instead of buying a new camera. Would you say it's worth buying a new shutter? I really love the 5D.
I think we're at the point where newer gear no longer brings essential features. The catch up game to film quality has long ended. Many pro and "semipro" designated cameras can capture quality images at ISO 6400. Paired with quality f1.4-f2 glass that gives you some very usable shutter speeds in dim light. And professionals with years of experience would have brought out the shoe flash at ISO 1600 anyway.
A new camera is no longer necessary and I imagine we'll be seeing 5Dc's and D3's for the next few years.
NathanHamler wrote:
i really dont consider a 5D Classic "Older"...i mean, yeah it's older, but not really in the sense of "it's going to hold you back"...it's full frame, 12mp, gives fairly clean files at 1600, has a larger screen...
when i think of OLDER, i think like nikon d100, d70, canon 20d, 30d, canon 1D, Nikon D1, and POSSIBLY d2h...not really the d2x, since it's 12mp....it's high iso isn't STELLAR....if i was stuck with picking any of these bodies listed, OR a 5d Classic, i'd pick the 5D in a heartbeat....
and someone mentioned using 2 D300's....D300 def isn't "older"....would you call a 7D older? they're the same level camera from different manufacturers......Show more →
Psst... the 30d came out a bit later after 5dc. D300 is older. The D300s and 7D came out about the same time though.
GraemePitman wrote:
I use a 5D classic and a 1DII and I've even shot portrait sessions recently with a 20D. IQ is great on all those cameras in the right scenarios (I prefer the 5D usually). I'll probably upgrade next year to a 5d MKII (just can't resist the LCD), but other than that I'm completely happy with my set-up.
a 20D?
Mind if I ask where you live? Yes, it's the photographer and not the camera that create stunning images (to an extent). However, maybe teen moms in South Dakota or Iowa don't know the difference but showing up to a paid gig with a 20d is completely unacceptable in the real world. Have some dignity.
Ghost wrote:
Psst... the 30d came out a bit later after 5dc. D300 is older. The D300s and 7D came out about the same time though.
that may be true about the 30d coming out after the 5dC, but the fact is the 30d is still 8mp, with less than stellar AF (the same AF as the 5dC)...the 5dC is still higher resolution, and has better high ISO....So i still say the 30D is less optimal than the 5Dc.....
as for the d300s and the 7d coming out at the same time.... so that means that the d300s isn't old, but the d300 is?......when it comes to photography, is there ANY difference in the d300 and the d300s? BESIDES video, and 1 fps difference at the high end? they're exactly the same camera...
the d300 has pro AF, pretty decent high ISO performance (as good or better than the 7D), and pro build quality and a decent sized buffer......i def wouldn't say anyone is being "held back" by shooting a d300....
Let's be honest though....IQ wise any of the "older" cameras i listed in my previous post are more than capable of producing great images at iso 800 and below....it's just little things that make your shooting experience that much easier...like the d70....i have no problem with the IQ of the d70 at lower iso's....the problem is that dang 1.8" screen on the back, you cant check sharpness NEARLY as well as on newer cameras, and the camera is just SLOW....the viewfinder is HORRENDOUS...like looking through a tunnel.....the 6mp doesn't really bother me that much...it's the speed of the camera, and overall user experience...
