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 p.10 #7 · update! Nikons mirrorless lens mount | |
carstenw wrote:
Wait, you are not comparing 1-1 here, but picking one NEX model to compare price and size, but another to compare shooting rate. If we pick the C3, which is price-equivalent to the J1, then we are comparing 10fps with full AF (60fps without, if you pre-focus!) for 34 shots buffered, to 5fps with 6 shots in the buffer. That is a huge difference to a soccer mom! If you pick a higher end NEX, the price difference is noticeable.
no, both C3 and 5N are almost the same size and the 5N is the same price as the nikon 1 while the C3 $150 cheaper. also, the C3 shoots at least 7fps, but true not with full autofocus between shots.
carstenw wrote:
The J1 body is not significantly smaller than the NEX-C3, but the lenses are (ignore the for-video zoom, or compare it to the Panasonic 14-140, as you please), so the system will be noticeably smaller.
i didn't notice that the 28mm equiv was any smaller than the NEX 16mm equiv. i guess you can pick and choose comparisons. i've said before i think if you want autofocus lenses, µ4/3 is the way to go. those lenses are just as small (or smaller) than the nikon 1 lenses it seems – compare to the panny 28mm equiv pancake or either the new olympus or new panny zooms.
carstenw wrote:
About weight, note that it is important to add the lens to the weight, since smaller sensor cameras have lighter lenses. Body + kit zoom weight will be quite comparable, but every additional lens will cause the scale to tip in the Nikon 1's favour. Note that the NEX-C3 weighs 225g and the J1 weighs 383g, which will likely mean that the Nikon is significantly more rugged. The C3 felt flimsy to me the one time I handled one. The NEX-5N is nicer, but it is also more expensive.
Anyway, apart from numbers comparisons, I think it is clear that Nikon has put a lot of work into making this a high-quality, robust system with high-end performance and some neat features, and are aiming very directly at a specific market. The only negative is the sensor size. Whether one offsets the other will be seen with time.
I think it sounds neat and don't understand all the criticism here. I could imagine a J1 or V1 as a backup camera, or a light camera for walking around. If I were replacing my D3 with a mirrorless, I would probably be more interested in a NEX, but I am not, I am adding it....Show more →
i'm not going to comment on build quality till i hold one, but having handled whatever nikon calls canon g12 competitor i don't have you faith.
my view is that nikon came out with something that is weaker than the competitors on every front except fps, which i really don't think many people need much, but maybe i'm wrong. i think shutter lag is a bigger issue for p&s upgraders, but nikon doesn't have any advantage that i saw there. this means i don't see any compelling argument to sell the camera to anyone on other than nikon's name (or if you pretend that µ4/3, NX, and NEX don't exist, which could be viable in a US big box store).
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Well, not quite. The APS-C sensor in it is not good enough to compete with FF, but it makes the lenses larger, so the whole system isn't that compact. If I am going to make a compromise in the IQ department, I prefer to gain more size benefits. There are lots of small AF lenses for the m4/3 system, for example.