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p.1 #1 · CF card size and 5D MkII


Just out of curiosity - does anybody know the maximum CF card capacity which will work with the 5D MkII? Are there any limitations? I did not find any information about this online or in the manual.


Feb 23, 2009 at 06:19 PM
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p.1 #2 · CF card size and 5D MkII


What ever CF card , that will fit in the slot!


Feb 23, 2009 at 06:30 PM
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p.1 #3 · CF card size and 5D MkII


32G works just fine.


Feb 23, 2009 at 06:31 PM
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p.1 #4 · CF card size and 5D MkII


Thanks guys, but is there anything known about the maximum CF capacity of the camera? I could imagine that Canon set up a limit to avoid that this camera is being used as replacement for a camcorder if even more powerful CF cards hit the market in the soon future.


Feb 23, 2009 at 06:33 PM
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retrofocus wrote:
Thanks guys, but is there anything known about the maximum CF capacity of the camera? I could imagine that Canon set up a limit to avoid that this camera is being used as replacement for a camcorder if even more powerful CF cards hit the market in the soon future.


Why would you image that?



Feb 23, 2009 at 06:45 PM
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p.1 #6 · CF card size and 5D MkII


RDKirk wrote:
Why would you image that?


Because Canon sells also other stuff than DSLRs (and wants to sell new DSLR models in the future of course)!



Feb 23, 2009 at 06:49 PM
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retrofocus wrote:
Because Canon sells also other stuff than DSLRs (and wants to sell new DSLR models in the future of course)!


Let me see if I understand this. Are you saying that Canon intentionally limits the card size that their DSLR's can handle so as to intentionally obsolete them as new, larger capacity cards are introduced, thus forcing us to purchase new bodies for the larger cards?



Feb 23, 2009 at 06:58 PM
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p.1 #8 · CF card size and 5D MkII


Max card size used will be determined by firmware. As long as Canon updates this according to newer flash card technology you have nothing to worry about.


Feb 23, 2009 at 07:03 PM
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gearhead5 wrote:
Let me see if I understand this. Are you saying that Canon intentionally limits the card size that their DSLR's can handle so as to intentionally obsolete them as new, larger capacity cards are introduced, thus forcing us to purchase new bodies for the larger cards?


I am asking this and not saying that this is true what your reply intends. Still I could imagine that the firmware sets limitations. That's why I am discussing this here.



Feb 23, 2009 at 07:16 PM
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Daniel K wrote:
Max card size used will be determined by firmware. As long as Canon updates this according to newer flash card technology you have nothing to worry about.


Thanks! Looks like that there is no limitation given (yet). Question still remains at which point Canon needs to upgrade its firmware to higher capacity CF cards....



Feb 23, 2009 at 07:18 PM
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p.1 #11 · CF card size and 5D MkII


Canon will limit updates to a certain extent, say for example don't expect an update for the 10D or 20D, but you could expect an update for the 40D and other current models. Adobe does the same thing with RAW updates, thier responsibility is for current models.


Feb 23, 2009 at 07:39 PM
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At some point, the Compact Flash Association will have finalized, if not already released, the specifications for SATA interface in CF cards, instead of the current PATA (IDE).

It's intended to be for non-consumer equipment at first, i.e. perhaps an enclosed CF card within a computer or media player, that you don't access nor change.

But, who knows if it migrates to a camera interface later? My advice is to buy only what you need within a year's time. Things change fast with technology /

More to read at: http://www.compactflash.org/pr/070717.pdf



Feb 23, 2009 at 07:44 PM
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Any device capable of using Fat32, which includes the 20D-50D, and obviously the 5D, 5DMk2, and 1D/1Ds series can use up to the maximum size defined by the compact flash specification which is 137GB. Canon does not limit the size, however on the 5DMk2 it limits the size of a single video file.



Feb 23, 2009 at 07:50 PM
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sirimiri wrote:
At some point, the Compact Flash Association will have finalized, if not already released, the specifications for SATA interface in CF cards, instead of the current PATA (IDE).

It's intended to be for non-consumer equipment at first, i.e. perhaps an enclosed CF card within a computer or media player, that you don't access nor change.

But, who knows if it migrates to a camera interface later? My advice is to buy only what you need within a year's time. Things change fast with technology /

More to read at: http://www.compactflash.org/pr/070717.pdf


Thanks for this informative link! I agree, it's better not to buy too big and fast CF cards since they might be replaced by newer and faster models soon after. And if there is a new CF standard released in the future, a firmware upgrade is necessary anyway.



Feb 23, 2009 at 07:52 PM
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davenfl wrote:
Any device capable of using Fat32, which includes the 20D-50D, and obviously the 5D, 5DMk2, and 1D/1Ds series can use up to the maximum size defined by the compact flash specification which is 137GB. Canon does not limit the size, however on the 5DMk2 it limits the size of a single video file.


Thanks a lot, this was the answer I was looking for! And you are right, the movie recording time is already fixed independent on the camera's CF capacity to 90 minutes at maximum (why - see my assumptions above?).



Feb 23, 2009 at 07:57 PM
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p.1 #16 · CF card size and 5D MkII


And if there is a new CF standard released in the future, a firmware upgrade is necessary anyway.

A change from PATA (IDE) to SATA will be a camera upgrade.

And you are right, the movie recording time is already fixed independent on the camera's CF capacity to 90 minutes at maximum (why - see my assumptions above?).

Right now a single take is fixed at a maximum of 12 minutes by FAT32 constraints. But who is going to shoot a 12-minute take with such a camera? Takes that long are exceedingly rare even in professional cinema.



Feb 24, 2009 at 07:40 AM
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p.1 #17 · CF card size and 5D MkII


retrofocus wrote:
Thanks guys, but is there anything known about the maximum CF capacity of the camera? I could imagine that Canon set up a limit to avoid that this camera is being used as replacement for a camcorder if even more powerful CF cards hit the market in the soon future.


No there is a size limit per file of 4gb which is 12 mins of video time, nothing to stop you starting again for another 12 mins just like nothing to stop you putting another card in
as stated above the you could get 137gb cf cards to work.
Looking around it seems that 32gb is the largest you can generaly get but I think 1 of the card co.s released 64 and 100gb a while back.
Also saw that a new form of SD card was being talked about that could go upto 2TB!



Feb 24, 2009 at 07:16 PM
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p.1 #18 · CF card size and 5D MkII


My HVX200 came with 8GB cards, which were the biggest you could buy for a while. 32GB is way more than most people should ever need. You should consider something like a Firestore if you want more.


Feb 24, 2009 at 07:29 PM
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p.1 #19 · CF card size and 5D MkII


RDKirk wrote:
Right now a single take is fixed at a maximum of 12 minutes by FAT32 constraints. But who is going to shoot a 12-minute take with such a camera? Takes that long are exceedingly rare even in professional cinema.


Not even in professional cinema - in professional cinema I have seen half hour takes in home videos, for whatever good they may have served. When I see a multi-minute take in a "real" movie it's usually something to behold, insanely hard to do, or to do well. But in the consumer market it's all too common, unfortunately. Hard to stay awake



Feb 24, 2009 at 07:36 PM
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stanj wrote:
Not even in professional cinema - in professional cinema I have seen half hour takes in home videos, for whatever good they may have served. When I see a multi-minute take in a "real" movie it's usually something to behold, insanely hard to do, or to do well. But in the consumer market it's all too common, unfortunately. Hard to stay awake


Did you ever see that scene from Kill Bill where it goes from Steadicam to crane back to Steadicam for a total of about a 3 minute continuous shoot? Crazy good filming.



Feb 24, 2009 at 07:40 PM
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