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p.1 #1 · Best way to eliminate harsh shadows for outdoor portraits


Today was a partly sunny day, plenty of clouds. Took an image of my daughter near flowers in a local park. Decent image, however I noticed a shadow on the left of her face, darkening the eyes as well. How can I curb the shadows (inexpensively)? I was never a good "people" photographer for some reason but I want to improve that. I prefer wildlife, architecture, and nature/landscapes.



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May 11, 2019 at 06:05 PM
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p.1 #2 · Best way to eliminate harsh shadows for outdoor portraits


You can shoot in raw format and then raise the luminance of the darker parts of the image in a post-processing program on your computer. But this reduces both global and detail contrast. Then, you can simply look for better light or direction of light. You can use (larger) mirrors to reflect the light so that it arrives at the subject from different directions. The best, though not necessarily the cheapest solution is to use a powerful external flash that can be adjusted to the ambient light.


May 11, 2019 at 06:22 PM
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p.1 #3 · Best way to eliminate harsh shadows for outdoor portraits


Fill flash.


May 11, 2019 at 07:06 PM
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p.1 #4 · Best way to eliminate harsh shadows for outdoor portraits


If it's a 3/4 or head shot the subject can hold a reflector (laying flat facing up) or you can even throw a bed sheet on the ground to help throw a little light up if it's not in your frame. If you have a helper have them hold the reflector on the side of the shadows throwing some of the sunlight back at the subject and taming the shadows.

Many ways to approach this but these are a few quick and simple ones. Learn to look at your light quality and direction first and surroundings (flowers etc.) second. The light is the most important part. You can even do simple things that help like placing your subject over a sidewalk to bounce a little light back up instead of creating a green cast from grass.

Have fun!



May 11, 2019 at 08:09 PM
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p.1 #5 · Best way to eliminate harsh shadows for outdoor portraits


+1 for fill flash.

You really don't need that "powerful" of a flash for fill … depends on your shooting distance of course, and your chosen settings.

But, since for fill flash, you aren't trying to overpower ambient light ... you are just adding some light to the areas that have less ambient to have something to help bridge the gap and make those shadows less stark.

Other methods can include using a reflector, but that means someone (or something) has to hold it up.

Also, sometimes it is your subject's position. If your subject can lift / look more skyward / less downward, there can be a bit more light reaching into the eyes / shadow areas.



May 11, 2019 at 08:17 PM
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p.1 #6 · Best way to eliminate harsh shadows for outdoor portraits


Back light your subject. Keep the whole face shadowed and then lift in post. Shoot raw like mentioned and use that ability to recover highlights.

You're in the nikon forum so you don't have to worry about lack of dynamic range....

P.S. Also worth mentioning, avoid shooting in midday sun. Lower the sun, the softer the light. Example below. Natural lighting.






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May 11, 2019 at 09:20 PM
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Can you post the photo?


May 11, 2019 at 09:28 PM
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p.1 #8 · Best way to eliminate harsh shadows for outdoor portraits


Not a reportage friendly technique, but if I have to shoot someone in the sun* I use a 40" scrim** between the sun and subject as close to the subject as possible. Good as a $500 soft box.

*I'd put them in the shade if I could
** 4 in 1 light disk goes everywhere with me. Best lighting tool I own.

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May 11, 2019 at 09:28 PM
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p.1 #9 · Best way to eliminate harsh shadows for outdoor portraits


Reflector whatever it may be someone with a white shirt/esky lid/small reflector to go. Off camera fill in flash is always great with NLS. It just works wonderfully.

When you have none of the above exposure is everything! Do try spot metering and watch carefully the highlights you wish to preserve and compensate the exposure to suit. If you get the face exposure right everything else is easy to work with the image. Sure you can lift the image by exposing for the highlights but often the shot does not feel the same as if you get the face accurately exposed. With high contrast scenes work with the curves lowering the contrast to match what you see or wish to express in the portrait.



May 11, 2019 at 09:58 PM
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RustyBug wrote:
+1 for fill flash.

You really don't need that "powerful" of a flash for fill … depends on your shooting distance of course, and your chosen settings.

But, since for fill flash, you aren't trying to overpower ambient light ... you are just adding some light to the areas that have less ambient to have something to help bridge the gap and make those shadows less stark.

Other methods can include using a reflector, but that means someone (or something) has to hold it up.

Also, sometimes it is your subject's position. If your subject can lift / look more skyward / less
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By "powerful", I meant more powerful than the average internal flash. Distance and settings are important, if you shoot wide open with an ND filter, and cannot go below 1/200th of a second, then you need a more powerful flash.



May 12, 2019 at 07:53 AM
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I have a SB-700 that I need to learn more about. Tend to use auto settings. Here is the image!

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May 12, 2019 at 09:23 AM
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I don’t think you have a lighting problem here. Composition could be better (cut off shoe, people in background, subject centered, gravel is distracting) but it is a fine family photo. To take your photography to the next level, I would buy a book on exposure and a book on composition. There are many good ones available. That is what I did.


May 12, 2019 at 10:10 AM
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Shot (lighting) looks good to me. Though I agree re: composition. Is that Sonnenberg Gardens?


May 12, 2019 at 11:15 AM
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Nikkorman wrote:
I have a SB-700 that I need to learn more about. Tend to use auto settings. Here is the image!


Just put it on some value of - FEC. A few test shots will let you decide what you like for enough fill light without having that "flash" look. I used to set mine around -1 1/3 EV (somewhere between -2/3 & -2) . Just enough to give a kiss of fill to the shadows, and a kiss of sparkle into the eyes (i.e. not receiving any specular light from this orientation). I'd probably go with a wide and "Even" distribution as a fill light.


If you notice the ground beside her shoe, the shadow area is averaging around 125, while the sunlit area is averaging around 200. This is ballpark 2.5 - 3 stops difference of illumination between the key light (i.e. sun & sky) vs. the shadow area (skylight only).

With a "split the diff" strategy (1/2 of -3 EV = -1.5 EV), auto (i.e. simple and nothing to think about while shooting) can still be viable. Again, a few test shots at diff -FEC will show you what you like. Once, you're dialed in ... you're good to go.


As others have noted ... you have some latitude to open this one up a bit in post as well.



May 12, 2019 at 11:44 AM
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Nikkorman wrote:
I have a SB-700 that I need to learn more about. Tend to use auto settings. Here is the image!


I think you're being too hard on yourself, as that's a decent photo, but here's my thoughts.

Generally (for me) with casual/fun photos of friends and family, it's a balance between achieving a few goals: 1) emotion/mood 2) flattering lighting 3) sharp focus 4) good composition. For me, a snapshot (ie nothing special) nails one of those things, a decent photo gets two, and strong photo gets 3, and a great photo all four. I think we all put pressure on ourselves to nail everything in every photo, but in reality most of us mere mortals only get a photo of friends/fam with all four nailed once in a while, as for example sometimes belaboring focus, lighting or composition makes us lose the mood/emotion of the moment (entirely different from a paid shoot where you may hire talent specifically because they can look natural consistently).

The light in this photo is high in the sky, and hard barely diffused sun, which will inevitable cast "raccoon eyes" on the face, which I'm guessing is what you don't like. There are ways to use photoshop to reduce the appearance of the shadows on the face, but then you'd have lighting on the face that's incongruous from the rest of the photo. It's challenging to produce flattering results with hard light on the face unless the sun is on the horizon.

Rather than lug around a speedlite, one of the best ways to overcome challenging overhead sun is open shade: A doorway, under a tree, shadow side of a building, etc. Expose for the face, and embrace the idea that it's ok to blow some highlights in the background/foreground in order to get a reasonably flattering exposure on the face and capturing the moment. Best of all, this approach is free which is an important consideration as you mention you want a solution that’s inexpensive.

Flash is certainly one way to "solve the problem", but as the saying goes there's more than one way to skin a cat. Fill flash can be an effective tool to overcome challenging light, but it's a balance again of those 4 priorities I listed earlier (emotion, lighting, focus, composition). Adding fill flash can eliminate the ambiance of the available light, which may not be ideal, and it can take away from the moment especially with candid photos.

Anyways, here's a few photos kind of illustrating the different approaches. None are necessarily the "right" answer, just different ones.

Bare sun, high noon (no flash):

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56bdf0db01dbaeb8c76c21cd/t/5ca0f0c9fa0d6013e0994939/1554051310979/DZ7_2895.jpg

Bare sun, later in afternoon so at a more pleasant angle (no flash):

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56bdf0db01dbaeb8c76c21cd/t/5ca0f19f53450a615e5b76d9/1554051500078.jpg

Bare sun placed at subject's back, exposed for the face (no flash):

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56bdf0db01dbaeb8c76c21cd/t/5ca0f251f9619a88d330eb6b/1554051676184.jpg

Subject in shade, 39" softbox as key, ambient light as fill:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56bdf0db01dbaeb8c76c21cd/t/5ca0f206a9812d00017f3ed7/1554051601559.jpg

Bare flash placed slightly to the left of camera, subject in shade:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56bdf0db01dbaeb8c76c21cd/t/5ca0f14171c10b981f068ae6/1554051406100.jpg

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May 12, 2019 at 12:21 PM
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Jim8EL wrote:
Shot (lighting) looks good to me. Though I agree re: composition. Is that Sonnenberg Gardens?


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May 12, 2019 at 01:38 PM
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gdsf2 wrote:
I don’t think you have a lighting problem here. Composition could be better (cut off shoe, people in background, subject centered, gravel is distracting) but it is a fine family photo. To take your photography to the next level, I would buy a book on exposure and a book on composition. There are many good ones available. That is what I did.


Thanks! I need to remember the details.



May 12, 2019 at 01:39 PM
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p.1 #18 · Best way to eliminate harsh shadows for outdoor portraits


Thank you for the information and tips!!


sungphoto wrote:
I think you're being too hard on yourself, as that's a decent photo, but here's my thoughts.

Generally (for me) with casual/fun photos of friends and family, it's a balance between a few capturing a few things: 1) emotion/mood 2) flattering lighting 3) sharp focus 4) good composition. For me, a snapshot (ie nothing special) nails one of those things, a decent photo gets two, and strong photo gets 3, and a great photo all four. I think we all put pressure on ourselves to nail everything in every photo, but in reality most of us mere mortals only get
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May 12, 2019 at 01:44 PM
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p.1 #19 · Best way to eliminate harsh shadows for outdoor portraits


Sometimes the lighting is just plain horrible and you decide to spot meter and get the exposure on the face right in spite of your background.







May 13, 2019 at 01:49 AM
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p.1 #20 · Best way to eliminate harsh shadows for outdoor portraits


Theres not many photos in which I would tolerate missed focus.

Maybe if the scene is very dynamic and the misfocus adds to that.



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