Archive 2010 · Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
p.1 #1Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
there's a beat up Helios-40 85mm near by in m42 mount that I'm entertaining the thought of buying.
I've seen a few images that show a 'swirly' effect when wide open, but I don't know a thing about them.
anyone have any thoughts or experience they'd like to share?
is it safe to assume that the m42 - eos adapter is all that's required to mount it to any eos body? (will the mirror clear?)
I have no idea what the street value is. looks like $400.00 for a nice one with box/filter kit in used condition at ......, but a beater?
thanks,
dan
I've seen a few images that show a 'swirly' effect when wide open, but I don't know a thing about them.
anyone have any thoughts or experience they'd like to share?
is it safe to assume that the m42 - eos adapter is all that's required to mount it to any eos body? (will the mirror clear?)
I have no idea what the street value is. looks like $400.00 for a nice one with box/filter kit in used condition at ......, but a beater?
thanks,
dan
Aug 13, 2010 at 07:54 PM
p.1 #2Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
I have several lenses from the Helios time period and have researched several others to gain a knowledge of their respective character. There is an 85/1.5 Helios 40 - should be a clear aluminum color and sometimes an M39 with a 42 adapter - and a Helios 40-2 - black in color and usually includes a built-in tripod mount - the 40 is the older of the two and the 40-2 is said to have the better IQ. They are optimized for portrait - nicely sharp in the center and very soft at the edges at 1.5 and yes the "Biotar" swirly bokeh. They are big and heavy.
With an M42 mount - though hard to find in good condition - a good condition 40 should be less than $400 and a beater around $300 - you can find excellent condition 40-2's for $475 - though the prices on that one has been going up. I've notice some of the BIN's are asking much higher prices - wait for a lower price to come around - they are probably hard to sell and will be tough to get your money back.
Mirror clearance? - good question - not all M42's clear on a 5D at infinity - I know I've research that but have forgotten. Good thing memory is the first thing to go - I need all that other stuff!
With an M42 mount - though hard to find in good condition - a good condition 40 should be less than $400 and a beater around $300 - you can find excellent condition 40-2's for $475 - though the prices on that one has been going up. I've notice some of the BIN's are asking much higher prices - wait for a lower price to come around - they are probably hard to sell and will be tough to get your money back.
Mirror clearance? - good question - not all M42's clear on a 5D at infinity - I know I've research that but have forgotten. Good thing memory is the first thing to go - I need all that other stuff!
Aug 13, 2010 at 08:26 PM
p.1 #3Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
My Helios-44 does not clear the mirror on my 5D2. It's also bare aluminum and M39 mount.
Aug 13, 2010 at 08:35 PM
p.1 #4Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
My Helios-40 did clear the mirror on my EOS 5D in landscape mode but not clear sometimes in portrait mode.
The missing hood was some of a shortcoming.
The missing hood was some of a shortcoming.
Aug 13, 2010 at 11:43 PM
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p.1 #5Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
i've tested all three versions of Helios-40: old ('alum', m39 ), newer (black, m42) and last (multi-coated, m42) and found no any problems with mirror clearens on my 5D. the only problem i've got with old lens is infinity overstepping.
Aug 14, 2010 at 10:13 AM
p.1 #6Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
On my Helios 40-2 there are no mirror clearance issues. It's stiff to focus, even after an overhaul, but I love this lens to death beside the fact that it's a heavy beast.
Aug 31, 2010 at 03:16 PM
p.1 #7Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
Love this lens... I have alu with wooden cap 
Its M42 mount,
Can see my set on flickr,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/asbalyan/sets/72157608523426244/with/3007514992/
I paid around $100...
Its M42 mount,
Can see my set on flickr,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/asbalyan/sets/72157608523426244/with/3007514992/
I paid around $100...
Sep 01, 2010 at 04:06 PM
p.1 #8Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
$400 for the first version seems a bit steep... Or have they gone up in price that much lately?
I have two silver copies. One is among first ever produced, with Red "П" (equivalent of Zeiss T) on it. It is as good as the famous Biotar 75/1.5, only with less harsh bokeh. Another one is a later copy with yellowed glass, lower contrast and terrible flare control. I would sell one of them but the first is undeniably better optically, but the second one produces amazing retro-looking pictures that I just love. So I keep both for now
First:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/4216940615_e7f0a52f33_z.jpg
Second:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2431/4086753756_9a323c4c3c_z.jpg
I have two silver copies. One is among first ever produced, with Red "П" (equivalent of Zeiss T) on it. It is as good as the famous Biotar 75/1.5, only with less harsh bokeh. Another one is a later copy with yellowed glass, lower contrast and terrible flare control. I would sell one of them but the first is undeniably better optically, but the second one produces amazing retro-looking pictures that I just love. So I keep both for now
First:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/4216940615_e7f0a52f33_z.jpg
Second:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2431/4086753756_9a323c4c3c_z.jpg
Sep 01, 2010 at 05:29 PM
p.1 #9Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
I have the Helios 40-2. No mirror clearance issues with my 5D. This is one of my favorite lenses for wildflowers.
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Sep 01, 2010 at 05:37 PM
p.1 #10Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
Nice shots - a lens for images with distinction! - Andrei - perfect lens for the vintage clothes shot. Guissimo - the poppies are great - that also might look good cropped to 16:9.
You guys may want to look at the Meyer Trioplan - fairly cheap - it's not for everybody but is distinct. I have some images in my uploads if you're interested - page 6 & 7. I'll try to pull some others off the hard drive.
You guys may want to look at the Meyer Trioplan - fairly cheap - it's not for everybody but is distinct. I have some images in my uploads if you're interested - page 6 & 7. I'll try to pull some others off the hard drive.
Sep 01, 2010 at 05:54 PM
p.1 #11Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
Yes, I saw some pics with Trioplan - very unique rendering and nice colors. I guess it will become the next one on my shopping list..
Sep 01, 2010 at 06:41 PM
p.1 #12Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
It has fun bokeh, but it can be very clunky in use. The silver ones are very heavy beasts.
Sep 01, 2010 at 10:44 PM
p.1 #13Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
i like my helios a lot, although many people get sick by watching the pictures
why don¨t you put in more pictures ?
best, L.
all first version, open at f/1.5
why don¨t you put in more pictures ?
best, L.
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all first version, open at f/1.5
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Jun 19, 2011 at 03:26 PM
p.1 #14Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
Wow, the last shot should go into "the most magical lens" thread - it feels like it came from a fairy tale!
Jun 19, 2011 at 10:02 PM
p.1 #16Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
LeadyGonzales wrote:
i like my helios a lot, although many people get sick by watching the pictures
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3359/5722502748_5b9b71a3b0_z.jpg
Wonderful image, needs to be poster size on a wall.
i like my helios a lot, although many people get sick by watching the pictures
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3359/5722502748_5b9b71a3b0_z.jpg
Wonderful image, needs to be poster size on a wall.
Jun 19, 2011 at 11:20 PM
p.1 #17Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
... oh ... thanks for your positive comments.
the helios 40, .... magic it become in the dark: all f=1.5
best, L.
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Jun 20, 2011 at 01:34 AM
p.1 #18Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
Beautiful set Leady. How many aperture blades does the Helios 40 have?
Regards,
Chris......
Regards,
Chris......
Jun 20, 2011 at 06:12 AM
p.1 #19Helios-40 1.5/85mm ?
hi chris,
thanks .. i counted 10 blades.
best, L.
wide open foreground bokeh.
thanks .. i counted 10 blades.
best, L.
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wide open foreground bokeh.
Jun 20, 2011 at 01:33 PM