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Archive 2008 · Sigma 120-400 available

  
 
Allan Bruce
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The Sigma 120-400 is now available (there is one on eBay for example, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sigma-120-400mm-F4-5-5-6-APO-DG-OS-HSM-120-400-fr-Canon_W0QQitemZ330232593682QQihZ014QQcategoryZ30070QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em122).

I was wondering has seen any early tests with this lens? or even with the new 150-500?



May 01, 2008 at 02:42 AM
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if its any good I'm glad I just sold my 100-400 for good money as I could see the value of 100-400l taking a hit (but only if the siggy's are any good).


May 01, 2008 at 03:12 AM
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p.1 #3 · Sigma 120-400 available


Looks like it's also showing through Amazon, but not B&H.


May 01, 2008 at 03:19 AM
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Wow, hopfully for sale locally in the Los Angeles area soon.

Edited on May 01, 2008 at 04:48 AM



May 01, 2008 at 04:47 AM
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Smaller dealers definitely have them. I've got some on the way now.


May 01, 2008 at 06:40 AM
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When's the 150-500 available, that's of more interest to me?


May 01, 2008 at 06:47 AM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
When's the 150-500 available, that's of more interest to me?


May 12th, AFAIK



May 01, 2008 at 07:22 AM
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MTF charts of the 120-400 in a dpreview threat:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1029&message=27741691



May 01, 2008 at 07:26 AM
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brunobarolo wrote:
May 12th, AFAIK


Thanks; let's hope it can improve on the pretty good Bigma



May 01, 2008 at 09:10 AM
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There was 2 available... I bought one of them

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330232593682&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D330232593682%26fvi%3D1

I'll let you know next week when I will / Should receive it. So far the seller has not answered any questions about shipping date or tracking number.


don't worry I'll keep you posted.
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Guy



May 01, 2008 at 04:45 PM
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Thanks, I got the other.


May 01, 2008 at 06:06 PM
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Anybody heard on their delivery of these lenses yet? Amazon is now saying June 10 for the 120-400 and 150-500 for Canon...


May 04, 2008 at 10:56 PM
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Gosh I hope the samples posted on dpreview aren't indicative of the 120-400's true performance; they are woeful. I hope it's a grossly faulty lens or a useless tester.


May 04, 2008 at 11:09 PM
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I'm afraid these samples are in line with the MTF charts (clearly lower than e.g. the 4/100-300), as well as with the price (half as much as the Canon 100-400). And the 150-500 will look very similar.

You simply get what you pay for. The mythic Canon 100-400 Mark II will be much better, but it will cost € 2000.

Edited on May 05, 2008 at 01:38 AM



May 05, 2008 at 01:37 AM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Gosh I hope the samples posted on dpreview aren't indicative of the 120-400's true performance; they are woeful. I hope it's a grossly faulty lens or a useless tester.


One thing that strikes me as odd is the price.
Not only it's rather low, but here in Europe it's also much lower than sigma's own 80-400.
Also, I thought that it was suposed to replace the 80-400, but it's not, since the latter is still listed at dealers and sigma's website, which makes the price difference all that much strange since it has more glass elements and features HSM, while the 80-400 does not.

Another thing to consider is the fact that the lens is not an EX.

Maybe these two factors are indicative of a lower IQ...

I have ordered one online (haven't made the money transfer yet), but I think I'll cancel the order until I see more pics or an online review.



May 05, 2008 at 07:24 AM
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One thing that strikes me as odd is the price.
Not only it's rather low, but here in Europe it's also much lower than sigma's own 80-400.
Also, I thought that it was suposed to replace the 80-400, but it's not, since the latter is still listed at dealers and sigma's website, which makes the price difference all that much strange since it has more glass elements and features HSM, while the 80-400 does not.

Another thing to consider is the fact that the lens is not an EX.

Maybe these two factors are indicative of a lower IQ....



Indeed this is very peculiar. Why Sigma is doing cannot be understood just yet. But I suspect it's all part of a strategy. I believe Sigma and Canon had some tacit understanding, perhaps as fellow Japanese corporations, not wanting to compete with each other too ferociously ... giving Canon some leeway to ensure that their 100-400L will retain its value. And not to destroy the Canon 100-400 in the market.

So this is why Sigma have perhaps come up with an non-EX design, no weather sealing but with very good optical performance that is perhaps better than that of the Canon 100-400L. I think as fellow Japanese corporations they do compete but also watch each other's back. Japanese are very loyal towards each other.








Edited on May 05, 2008 at 02:26 PM



May 05, 2008 at 02:25 PM
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Venus wrote:
Japanese are very loyal towards each other. I believe Sigma and Canon had some tacit understanding, perhaps as fellow Japanese corporations, not wanting to compete with each other too ferociously ... giving Canon some leeway to ensure that their 100-400L will retain its value. And not to destroy the Canon 100-400 in the market.


This notion strikes me as (to put it charitably) implausible.



May 05, 2008 at 03:37 PM
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Venus wrote:
So this is why Sigma have perhaps come up with an non-EX design, no weather sealing but with very good optical performance that is perhaps better than that of the Canon 100-400L.



Where do you find any indication for that assumption? The samples posted so far certainly don't show "very good optical performance". Neither do the MTF charts.



May 05, 2008 at 04:26 PM
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It seems ok from 200-300, but still too soft for anyone here I'm sure.
Stopping down at all improves sharpness.
Focus is so slow it's shocking, even on a 1DIIn. But no hunting.
No CA on a sky shot was a pleasant suprise.

That seller did manage to send FedEx in such a way I wasn't nailed with import duty.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/2468570815_8f7c5b0293_o.jpg

Camera: Canon EOS-1D Mark II N Exposure: 0.002 sec (1/640) Aperture: f/6.3 Focal Length: 352 mm ISO Speed: 200

Download larger jpg from RAW, slight sharpening only.
http://tinyurl.com/6l3vvk



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2338/2472983501_1c4d8ca253_o.jpg

Canon EOS-1D
Exposure: 0.001 sec (1/800)
Aperture: f/5.6
Focal Length: 400 mm
ISO Speed: 200

Edited by Andrew J on May 07, 2008 at 09:07 AM GMT

Edited on May 07, 2008 at 09:07 AM



May 05, 2008 at 05:40 PM
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Andrew J wrote:
It seems ok from 200-300, but still too soft for anyone here I'm sure.
Stopping down at all improves sharpness.
Focus is so slow it's shocking, even on a 1DIIn. But no hunting.
No CA on a sky shot was a pleasant suprise.

That seller did manage to send FedEx in such a way I wasn't nailed with import duty.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/2468570815_8f7c5b0293_o.jpg

Camera: Canon EOS-1D Mark II N Exposure: 0.002 sec (1/640) Aperture: f/6.3 Focal Length: 352 mm ISO Speed: 200

Download larger jpg from RAW, slight sharpening only.
http://tinyurl.com/6l3vvk


Gosh..postage to the USA is faster than UK ... Mines in Paris France airport at 00:10 GMT

Still if its not all that good then I think 'the' auction site will return nearly a full refund.

Gutted about the TAX mate...

Hope I get away with it

.
Guy



May 05, 2008 at 06:14 PM
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