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p.1 #1 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

Here is a shot i took yesterday at the Stanford Church. I cannot remember if this was the schneider 28mm PC or the contax zeiss 35mm PC but it was almost fully shifted. First is the whole image resized and then a 100% crop upper right. I blew the highlight on the right window but i had my leaf back and hssselblad with me and the same window was blown there too even 2 stops underexposed.

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p.1 #2 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

Beautiful, Mark! Looks like CZ and the 1DsmkIII have found a happy home together. How are the shadow details holding up?

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p.1 #3 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

Here is another crop back left showing some of the shadows. I forgot that this particular image was bumped by 1.5 exposure in CS3.

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p.1 #4 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

Holy crap! That looks amazing...

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p.1 #5 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

Beautiful shot and amazing detail!

In your experience, how do the CZ PC lenses compare to the Canon TS-E's?

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p.1 #6 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

The contax 35mm PC is outstanding and the best wide angle PC lens I have used. THe canon 90mm TSE is also outstanding. The schneider 28mm PC is pretty good in terms of being sharp corner to corner but it really suffers from CA in some situations. I have been able ot correct in PS but sometimes takes some playing around. THe 35mm contax PC is just so sharpe edge to edge and almost no distortion. The canon 24mm TSE is decent but also has some CA. 45mm TSE is not the 90mm TSE but again decent. Mark

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p.1 #7 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

it looks very good, but can anyone explain me what's different between TSE and PC? thank you

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p.1 #8 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

TSE Tilt Shift PC perspective control... The later will only shift while the former will tilt and shift

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p.1 #9 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

Yikes, that is a very clean image, especially after being pushed +1.5 stops! Amazing!

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p.1 #10 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

How could you find the moment when no person is in the scene. I have had no luck there

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p.1 #11 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

.. i have a lot with people in it too...

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p.1 #12 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

Is this the lens you recently got from Mark - once he got done testing the 3 PC lenses. Truly a very nice copy of the lens.

I am in the process of procuring the Olympus shift lens. While not as nice as the Zeiss, I am really looking forward to getting a shift lens again - the last one was the 24 TS-E which I really liked.

Nice images. Thanks for sharing.

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p.1 #13 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

I bought the 35mm PC off ebay from a Canadian seller. I have not seen alot of variation between the lenses. The schneider 28mm PC is also decent albeit for the CA --fortunately can be correct in CS3

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p.1 #14 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

Damn.... I keep missing the Contax 35mm PC lenses when they show up at auction. There are always several Nikon PC's for sale.....Found an Olympus, but buyer was asking $300 more than what it should sell for. The Zeiss almost never shows up and when it does, it's gone before I can even bid on it

Must keep looking harder for the Zeiss PC gem

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p.1 #15 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

There is one on the B$S board now

I realize that image i posted was taken with the schneider 28mm PC shifted not the contax 35mm PC. Here is one taken with the contax. There is a lot more detail.

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p.1 #16 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

My goodness. The amount of detail in these 100% crops are AMAZING. Were these sharpened in any way?

Very cool though!

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p.1 #17 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

Mark, thanks for posting. This is the Stanford Chapel, correct? I remember you posting shots with the Hassy/Leaf combo some time ago. This is just outstanding. I just can't wait to find a 1DsIII. I have to agree about the Contax 35 PC. You just can't beat the optics and it really shows on the 1DsIII. Anyone looking at these photos should grab any copy you can still find of this lens. I love my copy and I'll never sell it.

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p.1 #18 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

Hi all thanks for the comments. Yes this is the Stanford church and I did take some images with the leaf as well-- long time ago and again the other day. I started to process those and they looked alot better initially until I compared them with the 35mm PC lens. THe detail is a bit better with the leaf but i need to look at those images again more closely. The issue is that I did not have a tilt shift for the hassy so the angle of the image is not identical. I did do some comparisons outside the church with the hasselblad/leaf vs canon 1Dsmk III. I compared the canon 85mm 1.2 with the hasselblad 100mm HC. THe detail is better with the leaf but the degree of difference not quite as large as I had expected. The color accuracy was much better with the Leaf and the DR was clearly better but the differences were not quite as huge as I thought. I still need to do some more processing because the files really have different workflows in CS3 and not sure i have the 1DsmkIII figured out yet. Plus I have been really busy at work.

The images above were sharpened. In CS3--- 0.25/5/0.25 and then smart sharpen 100/3. The canon files need more sharpening as expected compared to the leaf.

Here is a 100% crop comparison Leaf on top then canon f8. Both were processed and sharpened. Alittle more added to the canon.

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p.1 #19 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

Aptus 65. If you do the same level of sharpening the canon is much farther behind and in some fine detail images you can see a difference. I am going to try to do some macro testing this weekend.. hassy 120mm H2 vs leica 100mm on the 1DsmkIII

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p.1 #20 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

mark1958 wrote:
I am going to try to do some macro testing this weekend.. hassy 120mm H2 vs leica 100mm on the 1DsmkIII

Can't wait for this one!

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p.1 #21 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

Here are some shots taken outside at the Stanford Church.
The comparison -- Canon 1DsmkIII, 85mm 1.2 at f8 vs hasselblad H2/leaf aptus 65. 100mm/2.2 at f8 HC. Iso 100. The canon shot was upsized about 5 to 10% to make the subject a similar size for comparison. 100% crops.

Images were processed in CS3 in similar manner. Same amount of sharpening applied to both.
canon top, leaf bottom

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p.1 #22 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

The bottom image is the H2/Aptus-65, right?

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p.1 #23 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

John Black wrote:
The bottom image is the H2/Aptus-65, right?

Yes, according to the EXIF data.
Actually, the Canon shot looks better to me!

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p.1 #24 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

I am not sure if there is something lost on the web posting but I suggest you download the images and look. The leaf has more fine detail albeit the differences are not huge. The one issue that bugs me is that the color accuracy is much much better with the leaf back. Moreover transitional tones are much better with the leaf.. and of course DR. There are so many tradeoffs here.

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p.1 #25 · 1Ds mkIII great lenses vs hassy MF

Very close, but the Leaf has more fine detail. It's "crispy" as they say.

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