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Archive 2006•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
p.34 #1•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
I think the II in "Canon EF 50mm f1.2 II USM" is a mistake. I bought mine today from Pro Photo Supply in OR for $1467.72.
Dec 14, 2006 at 08:33 PM
p.34 #2•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
I have seen the "II" designation at several websites on that lens for several months, since it was introduced. Obviously it is a mistake, because Canon's website does not list any such lens.
Although, one could almost make a case for the new 50L being a "II" designation....as there was already a 50L. But it was an f/1 of course.
Although, one could almost make a case for the new 50L being a "II" designation....as there was already a 50L. But it was an f/1 of course.
Dec 14, 2006 at 08:57 PM
p.34 #3•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
Should be called the -2 for the lack luster performance and high price.
Dec 15, 2006 at 12:52 AM
p.34 #4•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
Speaking of the 50/1L, has anyone seen a comparison of this beast against the new 50/1.2L ?
Out if sheer useless interest (not that I'm in a position to buy either f/1 or f/1.2) I'd like to know how they compare. And what the average resale price of the 50/1L lenses does, now that there is a possible lighter cheaper alternative.
Out if sheer useless interest (not that I'm in a position to buy either f/1 or f/1.2) I'd like to know how they compare. And what the average resale price of the 50/1L lenses does, now that there is a possible lighter cheaper alternative.
Dec 15, 2006 at 04:42 AM
p.34 #5•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
Having owned both I will tell you that the 50-1.0 has very little value. I like sharp lenses and it was anything but sharp. The 50-1.2 is better but still not sharp.
I like pictures that dont look like water paintings.
I like pictures that dont look like water paintings.
Dec 15, 2006 at 07:58 AM
p.34 #6•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
madmax200 said: I like pictures that dont look like water paintings.
Aren't you afraid that some would point to your lack of sophisticated taste in photography
Aren't you afraid that some would point to your lack of sophisticated taste in photography
Dec 15, 2006 at 08:24 AM
p.34 #7•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
So for all those who have this lens, Was it worth the money??
Dec 15, 2006 at 11:44 AM
p.34 #8•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
EOS20 wrote:
So for all those who have this lens, Was it worth the money??
That's like asking if the 85L is worth it over the 85 1.8. For connoisseurs of the nuances of fine imagery...yes
I can't wait to get mine....
So for all those who have this lens, Was it worth the money??
That's like asking if the 85L is worth it over the 85 1.8. For connoisseurs of the nuances of fine imagery...yes
I can't wait to get mine....
Dec 15, 2006 at 11:53 AM
p.34 #9•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
looscanon wrote:
I got mine at Pro Photo Supply -- Portland, Oregon for $1467.72. Cheapest price I could find on the internet. If anyone is interested.
www.prophotosupply.com/specials/p-backorder_canon.htm
These guys scare me in one regard. They make you fill out a backorder form, but then magically have a bunch in stock the next day. How is it they're the only ones in the country with such a large stock? B&H, Adorama, and the other big names have zilche and you gotta wait for resupply. It makes me wonder if they're reselling used/returned ones as new? How reputable are these guys?
ALF
I got mine at Pro Photo Supply -- Portland, Oregon for $1467.72. Cheapest price I could find on the internet. If anyone is interested.
www.prophotosupply.com/specials/p-backorder_canon.htm
These guys scare me in one regard. They make you fill out a backorder form, but then magically have a bunch in stock the next day. How is it they're the only ones in the country with such a large stock? B&H, Adorama, and the other big names have zilche and you gotta wait for resupply. It makes me wonder if they're reselling used/returned ones as new? How reputable are these guys?
ALF
Dec 15, 2006 at 12:45 PM
p.34 #10•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
I think it is worth the money in my case. I happen to like the lens.
Dec 15, 2006 at 12:49 PM
p.34 #11•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
alfarmer...they have no other form to fill out besides a backorder form. If you'll look...they have no place for direct interactive web orders...so what else could they do?
Also, these lenses have only been out on the general market 2 weeks....how would they be getting recycled lenses in that short of a period
I'll bet they have a good return policy...if you get one and don't like it....did you ask them?
Also, these lenses have only been out on the general market 2 weeks....how would they be getting recycled lenses in that short of a period
I'll bet they have a good return policy...if you get one and don't like it....did you ask them?
Dec 15, 2006 at 12:52 PM
p.34 #12•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
EOS20 wrote:
So for all those who have this lens, Was it worth the money??
Absolutely. This lens is clearly going to be my first choice for Roller Derby and I expect it will excel at "box shots" in FlyBall - a big money-making shot that I do not have a good lens with which to cover it currently.
So for all those who have this lens, Was it worth the money??
Absolutely. This lens is clearly going to be my first choice for Roller Derby and I expect it will excel at "box shots" in FlyBall - a big money-making shot that I do not have a good lens with which to cover it currently.
Dec 15, 2006 at 01:01 PM
p.34 #13•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
hmmm, you almost have to question whether the true "connoisseur of the nuances of fine imagery" would waste their time with Canon lenses.
rockitman wrote:
That's like asking if the 85L is worth it over the 85 1.8. For connoisseurs of the nuances of fine imagery...yes
I can't wait to get mine....
rockitman wrote:
EOS20 wrote
So for all those who have this lens, Was it worth the money??I can't wait to get mine....
Dec 15, 2006 at 01:08 PM
p.34 #14•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
EOS20 wrote:
So for all those who have this lens, Was it worth the money??
Yes.
For that matter, the 1Ds was worth the $7999 I paid shortly after it was introduced, even though it's now worth a small fraction of that amount. This lens is likely to hold its value far better, and right now, in my hands, it does what I need it to do.
And no, I don't aim for photos that look like like watercolor paintings.
The Rebel XTi and kit lens are probably great for a lot of people, and the 50/1.4 is a terrific value in spite of all the gripes about its build quality.
Horses for courses.
A Leica M8 or DMR and 50/1.0 Noctilux must be great for some photogs, and if you can quickly MF a Zeiss 50/1.4 on a Canon body, more power to you.
I'm glad Canon made this lens, and glad that I bought one.
So for all those who have this lens, Was it worth the money??
Yes.
For that matter, the 1Ds was worth the $7999 I paid shortly after it was introduced, even though it's now worth a small fraction of that amount. This lens is likely to hold its value far better, and right now, in my hands, it does what I need it to do.
And no, I don't aim for photos that look like like watercolor paintings.
The Rebel XTi and kit lens are probably great for a lot of people, and the 50/1.4 is a terrific value in spite of all the gripes about its build quality.
Horses for courses.
A Leica M8 or DMR and 50/1.0 Noctilux must be great for some photogs, and if you can quickly MF a Zeiss 50/1.4 on a Canon body, more power to you.
I'm glad Canon made this lens, and glad that I bought one.
Dec 15, 2006 at 01:24 PM
p.34 #15•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
hauxon wrote:
Canon 1DsII, 85mm f/1.2L Mark I, 100 ISO, 1/20sec @ f/1.2, tripod, remote release, tripod, MLU, no Filter.
Focused on the candle. The lights are those tiny white Christmas lights on a houseplant in the background.
Just thought I'd add this to the discussion. The oblong out of focus light points are not unique to the new 50mm 1.2. The old version of the 85mm 1.2 exhibited the same characteristic, as does the Mark II. As you close down to f/2.0 it goes away.
Cheers,
DavidI think you post is an important reminder to all the complainers. The oval bokeh thing is there too with the mighty 85L, haven't heard anyone "worry" about that. Of the posted images it looks to me that the color, sharpness, contrast and bokeh are very similar to the 85L witch is exactly what we all wanted, right? Constant back or front focusing is a different issue, but to me it seems like the optical quality is very good.
Hrannar
Aye.
dbostock wrote
http://davidbostockphotography.com/webposts/_P1R5611_C1.jpgCanon 1DsII, 85mm f/1.2L Mark I, 100 ISO, 1/20sec @ f/1.2, tripod, remote release, tripod, MLU, no Filter.
Focused on the candle. The lights are those tiny white Christmas lights on a houseplant in the background.
Just thought I'd add this to the discussion. The oblong out of focus light points are not unique to the new 50mm 1.2. The old version of the 85mm 1.2 exhibited the same characteristic, as does the Mark II. As you close down to f/2.0 it goes away.
Cheers,
David
Hrannar
Aye.
Dec 15, 2006 at 01:27 PM
p.34 #16•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
ghuff:
Didn't ask them about return policy, as they just left a message. I'd still like to know how it is these guys wound up with so much inventory when very few of the big players seem to have any. Doesn't this seem odd to anyone else?
ALF
Didn't ask them about return policy, as they just left a message. I'd still like to know how it is these guys wound up with so much inventory when very few of the big players seem to have any. Doesn't this seem odd to anyone else?
ALF
Dec 15, 2006 at 01:37 PM
p.34 #17•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
mh2000 wrote:
hmmm, you almost have to question whether the true "connoisseur of the nuances of fine imagery" would waste their time with Canon lenses.
That's like asking if the 85L is worth it over the 85 1.8. For connoisseurs of the nuances of fine imagery...yes
I can't wait to get mine....
so in your opinion, lenses like the 35L, 50L, 85L, 135L, 600L, 300L 2.8 suck I beg to differ. I will agree they are hurting on the very wide end. My Zeiss 21 rectified that issue for me though...
hmmm, you almost have to question whether the true "connoisseur of the nuances of fine imagery" would waste their time with Canon lenses.
rockitman wrote
EOS20 wrote
So for all those who have this lens, Was it worth the money??I can't wait to get mine....
so in your opinion, lenses like the 35L, 50L, 85L, 135L, 600L, 300L 2.8 suck
I beg to differ. I will agree they are hurting on the very wide end. My Zeiss 21 rectified that issue for me though...Dec 15, 2006 at 01:38 PM
p.34 #18•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
alfarmer wrote:
ghuff:
Didn't ask them about return policy, as they just left a message. I'd still like to know how it is these guys wound up with so much inventory when very few of the big players seem to have any. Doesn't this seem odd to anyone else?
ALF
odd...yes, not to mention the fact they don't even have online ordering. I went to their site last night and was amazed at how unuseful it is for lense/camera sales...
ghuff:
Didn't ask them about return policy, as they just left a message. I'd still like to know how it is these guys wound up with so much inventory when very few of the big players seem to have any. Doesn't this seem odd to anyone else?
ALF
odd...yes, not to mention the fact they don't even have online ordering. I went to their site last night and was amazed at how unuseful it is for lense/camera sales...
Dec 15, 2006 at 01:40 PM
p.34 #19•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
fourfa wrote:
you guys would panic if you saw a Leica Noctilux image. Non uniform light shapes are standard with very large aperture lenses, get over it.
Aye!
you guys would panic if you saw a Leica Noctilux image. Non uniform light shapes are standard with very large aperture lenses, get over it.
Aye!
Dec 15, 2006 at 01:41 PM
p.34 #20•Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L
MikeZ wrote:
I’m a little bit surprised by the number of people interested in 50L who never heard about the “Cat’s Eye Bokeh” or the fact that some of the highlights will be cut off by the mirror chamber.
Let’s just say, that if you didn’t see this in 50L, 85L or other ultra fast prime pictures there would be something wrong with the lens or the laws of physics.
Aye!
I’m a little bit surprised by the number of people interested in 50L who never heard about the “Cat’s Eye Bokeh” or the fact that some of the highlights will be cut off by the mirror chamber.
Let’s just say, that if you didn’t see this in 50L, 85L or other ultra fast prime pictures there would be something wrong with the lens or the laws of physics.
Aye!
Dec 15, 2006 at 01:48 PM