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H. Kretzschmar
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


A rather funny shot from today: Cannabis sativa - there was an experimental field with that plant, which shall be free from psychotropic substances. Nevertheless a good sample for the picture quality reachable with the Zeiss on the 1Ds. Here a small overview:
http://iapf.physik.tu-berlin.de/jbohs/HKO/SHOW/Hanf847V9233kk.jpg

2 Mb! if you want to look.



Aug 22, 2004 at 09:12 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


I just pulled open the 2 Meg... wow!


Aug 22, 2004 at 09:16 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


I dind't want to open this message, as I knew exactly what's coming. And I was right. Oh my God, the 2MB file is so sharp that I feel sore in my eyes.



Aug 22, 2004 at 09:19 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


Are you sure that's sativa? Leaves look a little broad and the ......ooops, I mean......nevermind.



Nice shot!



Aug 22, 2004 at 09:20 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


I've heard this to be a nice lens. I wouldn't necessarily call it a "superwide", but it is a great performer in the "wide" arena.


Aug 22, 2004 at 09:33 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


H. Kretzschmar wrote:
...which shall be free from psychotropic substances.


Great. Now I can enjoy my weed with a clear conscience. Bong, anyone?



Aug 23, 2004 at 03:24 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


Where can I the Zeiss 21mm cheap? It's around $1500 new at B&H and it's quite a lot to spend for a prime, be it Zeiss glass though
Are there any other good super wide angle (~20mm) prime alternatives? I don't mind manual focus or stop-down metering...



Aug 23, 2004 at 11:46 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


One question: where did you get the Zeiss 21/2.8 from? Europe, the USA, online?

Thanks, Horea



Aug 23, 2004 at 06:33 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


nutek wrote:
Where can I the Zeiss 21mm cheap? It's around $1500 new at B&H and it's quite a lot to spend for a prime, be it Zeiss glass though
Are there any other good super wide angle (~20mm) prime alternatives? I don't mind manual focus or stop-down metering...


Sigma's 20 f/1.8 is a nice cheap alterantive. Of course it wouldn't look this nice on a 1Ds. I should have never sold mine.



Aug 23, 2004 at 07:58 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


That 2MB file is so sharp, I thought it was poking through my monitor. Beautiful.


Aug 23, 2004 at 08:00 PM
 

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


Can I PLEASE have directions to that field ? I would REALLY love to photograph it .


Aug 23, 2004 at 10:30 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


@horosu: I bought it used from B&H, USA.


Aug 24, 2004 at 12:28 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


@ericevan: you are real funny - it is near by a little village named Iba (that name is funny too) about 160 km northward from Frankfurt.


Aug 24, 2004 at 12:32 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


When B$H gets them used they go for about $1000..I have seen them under $1000 on e-bay.

Howard



Aug 24, 2004 at 12:48 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


that's definitely sharp at 2mb.




Aug 24, 2004 at 01:10 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


Mine came from KEH for about a grand. These lenses appear 2nd-hand irregularly, but they do appear. Just monitor the usual web sites for a few months. Contax USA runs a sale once or twice a year, with 10% off. You can also buy it new gray-market from the illustrious eBayer "etefore" .

Not to disparage other companies, but there is no cheap alternative: this optic stands alone.



Aug 24, 2004 at 02:57 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


Where is the best source for this lens?? Really keen on getting one for my kit.

I was sick to my stomach, mistakingly thinking you are selling the lens!

Asher



Aug 24, 2004 at 04:02 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


Anyone have a full size sample taken at f11 with the full image sharp from foreground to infinity? (like a landscape shot or an urbanscape for instance)

That lens is next on my list (course, there are lots of other things too that are "next" on my list too...G5 3ghz when it comes out, 20D for next body, 21 Zeiss for next lens, Carboard box for my next home..lol), but I really want to see some full size samples to examine and print.

Thanks to anyone that has files or links to share.

PixelPete



Aug 24, 2004 at 08:54 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


rico wrote:
Not to disparage other companies, but there is no cheap alternative: this optic stands alone.

There's no cheap alternative, but the Leica R 19/2.8 is also excellent. (The current, not the vintage 1960s one.) You'd be lucky to find one used for $1500 though.

etefore is great, I bought my Summilux-M 35/1.4 ASPH from him (back when the prices were much lower on Leica gear in HK, now they're too close to USA to be worthwhile).



Aug 24, 2004 at 09:49 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Super wideangle for 1Ds: Zeiss 21


@Jan: I very much would like to see a shot with that Leica 19 mm on the 1Ds. Do you have one ?
Reason is the absolutely extraordinary type of the Zeiss, which is an extrem retrofocus construction - that is a high contrast to that Leica.
Sure this strange construction is the main reason, why its performance is so good on the 1Ds, because all (most) wideangles on the 1Ds have the problem not to stimulate the margins of the sensor sufficiently. Theoretically the Leica therefore would be no good performer on the 1Ds, as good as may be on a film camera. It would be very nice to be able to improve that theory.



Aug 24, 2004 at 10:00 PM
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