This thread demonstrates, in many ways, the worst tendencies of photography forum threads. (And, yes, I cannot say that I\'ve never been guilty of the same behavior.)
Let\'s say that you think the original post was off-topic, OK? You can make a very strong case that your position is logically correct. Let\'s go ahead and stipulate that you are correct and that, indeed, your sense of order and logic has been violated.
But we\'re talking about the premature death of a person whose influence has arguably been greater than that of the vast majority of people in this world. It is - and I hope that you can go ahead and stipulate this - something that, in fact, has affected many people deeply.
While I would normally join most of you in resisting subjects that are off topic, how about a bit of discretion and good taste and patience this time - instead of getting into the \"mac thing\" business? There will again be a time and a place for that, no doubt, but it is not now and it is not here. For now, as people reasonably mourn the death of a person who they feel deeply about - whether you do or not - please just let it go. Keep your anger and your negative opinions to yourself for a few days and just try a bit of tolerance.
I never met him directly but I had the good fortune to work somewhat closely with people who did occasionally work directly with him, and I heard my share of \"Steve stories\" from these people. In most cases, the stories served to portray a person who was brilliant, driven, visionary, and sometimes quite impatient. I\'ve been fortunate to encounter a number of people of great artistic and other talent during my life, and in Jobs I recognize a person with the same sort of mind that characterizes many of them, particularly the artists. (I\'m thinking of certain musicians and a few photographers right now.) He had a vision of how things could be, he understood things (in this case the things included design, how people interact with technology, marketing, and this complicated thing called \"quality\") in a deep way that cannot be taught, he seemed to \"just know\" when a thing was right, and he seemed utterly dedicated to his vision of how things could be different and better. These characteristics do not always make a person easy to get along with or agreeable, but they often are part of the package.
This thread demonstrates, in many ways, the worst tendencies of photography forum threads. (And, yes, I cannot say that I\'ve never been guilty of the same behavior.)
Let\'s say that you think the original post was off-topic, OK? You can make a very strong case that your position is logically correct. Let\'s go ahead and stipulate that you are correct and that, indeed, your sense of order and logic has been violated.
But we\'re talking about the premature death of a person whose influence has arguably been greater than that of the vast majority of people in this world. It is - and I hope that you can go ahead and stipulate this - something that, in fact, has affected many people deeply.
While I would normally join most of you in resisting subjects that are off topic, how about a bit of discretion and good taste and patience this time - instead of getting into the \"mac thing\" business? There will again be a time and a place for that, no doubt, but it is not now and it is not here. For now, as people reasonably mourn the death of a person who they feel deeply about - whether you do or not - please just let it go. Keep your anger and your negative opinions to yourself for a few days and just try a bit of tolerance.
I never met him directly but I had the good fortune to work somewhat closely with people who did occasionally work directly with him, and I heard my share of \"Steve stories\" from these people. In most cases, the stories served to portray a person who was brilliant, driven, visionary, and sometimes quite impatient. I\'ve been fortunate to encounter a number of people of great artistic and other talent during my life, and in Jobs I recognize a person with the same sort of mind that characterizes many of them. He had a vision of how things could be, he understood things (in this case the things included design, how people interact with technology, marketing, and this complicated thing called \"quality\") in a deep way that cannot be taught, he seemed to \"just know\" when a thing was right, and he seemed utterly dedicated to his vision of how things could be different and better. These characteristics do not always make a person easy to get along with or agreeable, but they often are part of the package.
This thread demonstrates, in many ways, the worst tendencies of photography forum threads. (And, yes, I cannot say that I\'ve never been guilty of the same behavior.)
Let\'s say that you think the original post was off-topic, OK? You can make a very strong case that your position is logically correct. Let\'s go ahead and stipulate that you are correct and that, indeed, your sense of order and logic has been violated.
But we\'re talking about the premature death of a person whose influence has arguably been greater than that of the vast majority of people in this world. It is - and I hope that you can go ahead and stipulate this - something that, in fact, has affected many people deeply.
While I would normally join most of you in resisting subjects that are off topic, how about a bit of discretion and good taste and patience this time - instead of getting into the \"mac thing\" business? There will again be a time and a place for that, no doubt, but it is not now and it is not here. For now, as people reasonably mourn the death of a person who they feel deeply about - whether you do or not - please just let it go. Keep your anger and your negative opinions to yourself for a few days and just try a bit of tolerance.
I never met him, but I had the good fortune to work somewhat closely with people who did occasionally work directly with him, and I heard my share of \"Steve stories\" from these people. In most cases, the stories served to portray a person who was brilliant, driven, visionary, and sometimes quite impatient. I\'ve been fortunate to encounter a number of people of great artistic and other talent during my life, and in Jobs I recognize a person with the same sort of mind that characterizes many of them. He had a vision of how things could be, he understood things (in this case the things included design, how people interact with technology, marketing, and this complicated thing called \"quality\") in a deep way that cannot be taught, he seemed to \"just know\" when a thing was right, and he seemed utterly dedicated to his vision of how things could be different and better. These characteristics do not always make a person easy to get along with or agreeable, but they often are part of the package.
This thread demonstrates, in many ways, the worst tendencies of photography forum threads. (And, yes, I cannot say that I\'ve never been guilty of the same behavior.)
Let\'s say that you think the original post was off-topic, OK? You can make a very strong case that your position is logically correct. Let\'s go ahead and stipulate that you are correct and that, indeed, your sense of order and logic has been violated.
But we\'re talking about the premature death of a person whose influence has arguably been greater than that of the vast majority of people in this world. It is - and I hope that you can go ahead and stipulate this - something that, in fact, has affected many people deeply.
While I would normally join most of you in resisting subjects that are off topic, how about a bit of discretion and good taste and patience this time - instead of getting into the \"mac thing\" business? There will again be a time and a place for that, no doubt, but it is not now and it is not here. For now, as people reasonably mourn the death of a person who they feel deeply about - whether you do or not - please just let it go. Keep your anger and your negative opinions to yourself for a few days and just try a bit of tolerance.
Thanks,
Dan
Oct 06, 2011 at 08:13 AM
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