Ho1972 wrote: Paul Buff wrote:
First, the Vagabond Mini product was designed in TN. ...Same with the batteries . . .
I don\'t give a rat\'s posterior where a thing is designed and engineered because, in the end, somebody in a plant across the pond will make a unilateral decision to cut costs or ignore quality metrics in the interest of higher production numbers and increased profit.
This is particularly true in China.
FYI, I work for a large multi-national corp. with plants in N. America, S. America, India and China and we spend an inordinate amount of time trying to figure out when the Chinese are cutting corners and /or not telling us the truth. They have slipped counterfeit components into electrical systems, used unspecified alloying elements in castings (or omitted them altogether) and mixed parts from unapproved sources into the bins containing parts from certified vendors. And these are just the things we know about. Who knows what they may have actually gotten away with.
Maybe PCB has a better handle on it we do...
Of necessity, yes I have a pretty good handle on it, as I\'m sure does Elinchrom and Prototo and Apple et all. The bottom line is would you rather pay $239.95 for a Vag Mini, with complete customer protection and service, or $500. Or perhaps I should close my factory, have it all made in China, adopt conventional distribution methods and sell it for $400, replete with Made In China labeling? Or I could close my factory, have it made in China and keep selling it direct for $239.95 and put more money in pocket and tell my employees sorry . . . you\'ll have to apply for a minimum wage job at MacDonalds?
No Clinton here . . . is is what exists and is, with no place for redefinition. The biggest problem we all face is constant global and Federal attempts at redefinition of almost everything we have been accustomed to . . . a not-so-brave new world in which all must adapt or perish. Nixon done it by awakening the sleeping giant! Thanks Al Gore too for inventing the internet and global warming. And thanks Frank and Dodd and Bush and Pelosi for forcing banks into selling a bunch of houses to people who couldn\'t afford them, then letting the rest of us bail them out.
Maybe a broader, sensible view of the total picture might be useful than selective slamming.
Ho1972 wrote: Paul Buff wrote:
First, the Vagabond Mini product was designed in TN. ...Same with the batteries . . .
I don\'t give a rat\'s posterior where a thing is designed and engineered because, in the end, somebody in a plant across the pond will make a unilateral decision to cut costs or ignore quality metrics in the interest of higher production numbers and increased profit.
This is particularly true in China.
FYI, I work for a large multi-national corp. with plants in N. America, S. America, India and China and we spend an inordinate amount of time trying to figure out when the Chinese are cutting corners and /or not telling us the truth. They have slipped counterfeit components into electrical systems, used unspecified alloying elements in castings (or omitted them altogether) and mixed parts from unapproved sources into the bins containing parts from certified vendors. And these are just the things we know about. Who knows what they may have actually gotten away with.
Maybe PCB has a better handle on it we do...
Of necessity, yes I have a pretty good handle on it, as I\'m sure does Elinchrom and Prototo and Apple et all. The bottom line is would you rather pay $239.95 for a Vag Mini, with complete customer protection and service, or $500.
No Clinton here . . . is is what exists and is, with no place for redefinition. The biggest problem we all face is constant global and Federal attempts at redefinition of almost everything we have been accustomed to . . . a not-so-brave new world in which all must adapt or perish. Nixon done it by awakening the sleeping giant!
Jan 01, 2011 at 04:26 PM
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