carstenw wrote:
Oh, oh, oh, I recall a recent conversation here. I claimed that Canon didn\'t fail this test, whereas you claimed they did i know, I know, I am paraphrasing, and you are about to tell me the differences between my summary and what you actually said, but you know. Eh.
No I don\'t know.
thrice wrote:
At the end of the day, I think you\'re seeing what you want to see, if you honestly think the difference between the 85ZM and 100ZF is less than that between the 35\'s then I can\'t help you.
Hmm..If we are talking wide open then I\'m sorry - I assumed you could read an MTF chart. If you are talking about f/4 or other apertures then it\'s a different discussion. Never mind.
After all, you are the guy who buys Leica lenses then bitches about Leica rendering coming from them
Close but no cigar. I\'m the guy who buys Leica lenses and bitches about Leica rendering. And you\'re the fanboy that runs off insulted when somebody expresses any opinions about anything Leica related in anything but superlatives. I thought before it was limited to specifically Leica gear but you picking an argument over ZM lenses shows that any connection to Leica will do to set you off.
We can go on like that for a while, but what\'s the point?
I look forward to when you receive your 35 lux ASPH when you continuously wax rhetoric on focus shift, neutral rendering and lack of 3D or some other thing that Zeiss apparently does better.
Of course I will. I\'ll give you the same advice I gave Rod: if you find the discussion too offensive for your sensibilities, just look at the pretty pictures.
Seriously, if you don\'t like the discussions about the gear, why get involved at all? Why not just stick to posting photos? If you want to get into gear discussions that\'s perfectly fine but you can\'t at the same time bitch about them existing or about people disagreeing with you. Part of basic civil behavior in a discussion is accepting that there will be other viewpoints and opinions. What\'s the point of a discussion forum otherwise?
In fact I don\'t mind your gear talk at all. The ZM/ZF discussion would have been quite alright and informative had it not been for your hostile tone and air of hurt feelings.
Do you think we can drop this whole thing now and stop with the sniping? If you don\'t enjoy talk about gear, I would assume you don\'t like talk about talk about gear - I know that I don\'t.