denoir wrote:
Carsten, I don\'t know why you are giving me warnings - I\'m a known Leica skeptic, I\'m asking for a um..friend
I have the feeling that he would like to get a convincing start with glass that can compete with his collection of Zeiss ZE lenses. I think he\'d be comfortable spending up to say €10,000 ($15,000) on a start kit but probably not €20,000. So probably no Noctilux to start with. Also there is no real rush, I think he is pretty happy with the DSLR + Zeiss glass he has now and winter is not far away where the opportunities for photography will be rapidly falling. So I\'m..eh.. I mean he is in no hurry and hasn\'t made any decisions - he\'s just exploring the options.
Yes, yes, I mean, friends tend to think alike
10000 is a pretty decent sum for a good kit, as long as it doesn\'t include too many new Leica lenses. The Zeiss 85/2 is very pricy, btw. Zeiss 21/35/85 is one way to go, but really, why replicate a DSLR look, and not experiment with something new? Try the 90AA, a real sweetheart of a lens. The Leica lenses have a dreamy boke, more fluid than Zeiss, and they are lower contrast, but by no means softer. Zeiss lenses are quite high contrast which fits with CMOS sensors with AA filters, but really isn\'t necessary with a digital Leica M with a CCD sensor and no AA filter. A neat way to start would be simply M9+Zeiss 35/2. That should answer some open questions right there.
I can highly recommend Meister Camera Berlin and Hamburg as delivering well-described used lenses at slightly high, but still very reasonable prices, often with a small warranty, and an informal take-back policy, should something go wrong. Really nice people there. I really need to pay them a visit, actually...
denoir wrote:
Carsten, I don\'t know why you are giving me warnings - I\'m a known Leica skeptic, I\'m asking for a um..friend
I have the feeling that he would like to get a convincing start with glass that can compete with his collection of Zeiss ZE lenses. I think he\'d be comfortable spending up to say €10,000 ($15,000) on a start kit but probably not €20,000. So probably no Noctilux to start with. Also there is no real rush, I think he is pretty happy with the DSLR + Zeiss glass he has now and winter is not far away where the opportunities for photography will be rapidly falling. So I\'m..eh.. I mean he is in no hurry and hasn\'t made any decisions - he\'s just exploring the options.
Yes, yes, I mean, friends tend to think alike
10000 is a pretty decent sum for a good kit, as long as it doesn\'t include too many new Leica lenses. The Zeiss 85/2 is very pricy, btw. Zeiss 21/35/85 is one way to go, but really, why replicate a DSLR look, and not experiment with something new? Try the 90AA, a real sweetheart of a lens. The Leica lenses have a dreamy boke, more fluid than Zeiss, and they are lower contrast, but by no means softer. Zeiss lenses are quite high contrast which fits with CMOS sensors with AA filters, but really isn\'t necessary with a digital Leica M with a CCD sensor and no AA filter. A neat way to start would be simply M9+Zeiss 35/2. That should answer some open questions right there.
