brainiac wrote: garyvot wrote:
...I\'ll often shoot sRAW1 on the 5D2, which further reduces noise.
...per pixel, which is irrelevant. Best results in low light or high iso arise from shooting full rez raw and applying your best noise reduction algorithms _before_ downrezzing to sraw size.
It\'s a workflow thing. I shoot this way for events when the client needs turnaround very quickly and I don\'t have time to do post. ISO 1600 on the 5DII at sRAW1 with High ISO NR set to \'Low\' is astonishgly clean and still well detailed (processed in DPP), and ISO 3200 is quite good too.
Yes, I can get slightly better results using a full RAW workflow, but I prefer to use this approach for the jobs and images where it matters.
The examples you show at extreme ISOs are excellent photos, BTW, though they exceed my personal tolerance for noise. So yes, maybe I do try to shoot in the \"sweet spot\" of my cameras. I would likely use different techniques in similar light, such as dragging the shutter with 2nd curtain sync flash, to pull the ISOs back into range. But--that\'s my approach and yours is equally valid.
I still dispute the assertion that the 7D is a better low-light camera in most situations. At every \"normal\" ISO speed I\'ve tried, the 5D2 is at least a stop better. I don\'t see the banding on the 5D2 until ISO 6400 and that pretty much exceeds my noise threshhold anyway.
brainiac wrote: garyvot wrote:
...I\'ll often shoot sRAW1 on the 5D2, which further reduces noise.
...per pixel, which is irrelevant. Best results in low light or high iso arise from shooting full rez raw and applying your best noise reduction algorithms _before_ downrezzing to sraw size.
It\'s a workflow thing. I shoot this way for events when the client needs turnaround very quickly and I don\'t have time to do post. ISO 1600 on the 5DII at sRAW1 with High ISO NR set to \'Low\' is astonishgly clean and still well detailed (processed in DPP), and ISO 3200 is quite good too.
Yes, I can get slightly better results using a full RAW workflow, but I prefer to use this approach for the jobs and images where it matters.
The examples you show at extreme ISOs are excellent photos, BTW, though they exceed my personal tolerance for noise. So yes, maybe I do try to shoot in the \"sweet spot\" of my cameras. I would likely use different techniques in similar light, such as dragging the shutter with 2nd curtain sync flash, to pull the ISOs back into range. But--that\'s my approach and yours is equally valid.
brainiac wrote: garyvot wrote:
...I\'ll often shoot sRAW1 on the 5D2, which further reduces noise.
...per pixel, which is irrelevant. Best results in low light or high iso arise from shooting full rez raw and applying your best noise reduction algorithms _before_ downrezzing to sraw size.
It\'s a workflow thing. I shoot this way for events when the client needs turnaround very quickly and I don\'t have time to do post. ISO 1600 on the 5DII at sRAW1 with High ISO NR set to \'Low\' is astonishgly clean and still well detailed (processed in DPP), and ISO 3200 is quite good too.
Yes, I can get slightly better results using a full RAW workflow, but I prefer to use this approach for the jobs and images where it matters.
The examples you show at extreme ISOs are excellent photos, BTW, though they exceed my personal tolerance for noise, so yes, I do try to shoot in the \"sweet spot\" of my cameras. I would likely use different techniques in similar light, such as dragging the shutter with 2nd curtain sync flash, to pull the ISOs back into range. But--that\'s my approach and yours is equally valid.
brainiac wrote: garyvot wrote:
...I\'ll often shoot sRAW1 on the 5D2, which further reduces noise.
...per pixel, which is irrelevant. Best results in low light or high iso arise from shooting full rez raw and applying your best noise reduction algorithms _before_ downrezzing to sraw size.
It\'s a workflow thing. I shoot this way for events when the client needs turnaround very quickly and I don\'t have time to do post. ISO 1600 on the 5DII at sRAW1 with High ISO NR set to \'Low\' is astonishgly clean and still well detailed (processed in DPP), and ISO 3200 is quite good too.
Yes, I can get slightly better results using a full RAW workflow, but I prefer to use this approach for the jobs and images where it matters.
The examples you show at extreme ISOs are excellent photos, BTW, though they exceed my personal tolerance for noise, so yes, I do try to shoot in the \"sweet spot\" of my cameras. I would likely use different techniques in similar light, such as dragging the shutter with 2nd curtain sync flash, to pull the ISOs back into range. But--that\'s my approach and yours is equally valid.
Mar 20, 2010 at 09:30 AM
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