Bifurcator wrote:
BYO is much cheaper these days again for mid to high-spec machines.
Dpic_arctic wrote:
At about what price point do you start to save?
Well generally speaking:
A typical $6,000 preassembled machine can be built for a little less than $4,000 ***
A $4,000 machine can be built for $3,000.
A $2,000 machine can be put together for $1,500
A $900 machine can be put together for $800 to $850.
*** And in so doing the specification is additionally raised considerably. Like the MB you select will accept 12, 18, or 24 DIMM modules at 16 GB each for a total of a hell of a lot of RAM. Or it sports 8 SATA and 8 SAS connections, Or it has 1 or 2 extra PCIx slots, etc. where the prebuilt ones will be limited to 8 RAM slots, and maybe either/or on the Drive connections. You\'ll additionally be able to select a much better power supply maybe and etc. etc.
And this is all assuming that you\'re purchasing similar grade parts. It is possible to additionally lower the cost of components you select by choosing one\'s that are equal in speed but rated for consumer/gamer use instead of server grade. etc.
One interesting note is that when considering machines with same or similar components the Mac Pro from 2006 through to 2008 were pretty close to the same cost as a roll-your-own box. In 2009 however they for no apparent reason added almost $2000 to the price tag of every Mac Pro. So where once Mac Pro was a pretty good deal for the components you got Apple has joined the ranks of over-chargers. Sad but true. So if you want an Apple per-chance look for a new 2008 model which can still be had - here and there or on Apple\'s over-stock/referb pages. The higher spec\'d ones are essentially $6,000 boxes selling for $4,000.
Since this thread is about machines specifically for photoshop it\'s also important to note that clock speed is much more important then number of cores and that the amount of RAM is critical to over-all speed. SSD units as cache and scratch drives are also critical components for improving PS\'s performance! Rotational media can not compete - this is also true for every photo editing and photo browsing application I have tested (and I think I have tested all of them - yeah, too much time on my hands. )
Bifurcator wrote:
BYO is much cheaper these days again for mid to high-spec machines.
Dpic_arctic wrote:
At about what price point do you start to save?
Well generally speaking:
A typical $6,000 preassembled machine can be built for a little less than $4,000 ***
A $4,000 machine can be built for $3,000.
A $2,000 machine can be put together for $1,500
A $900 machine can be put together for $800 to $850.
*** And in so doing the specification is additionally raised considerably. Like the MB you select will accept 12, 18, or 24 DIMM modules at 16 GB each for a total of a hell of a lot of RAM. Or it sports 8 SATA and 8 SAS connections, Or it has 1 or 2 extra PCIx slots, etc. where the prebuilt ones will be limited to 8 RAM slots, and maybe either/or on the Drive connections. You\'ll additionally be able to select a much better power supply maybe and etc. etc.
And this is all assuming that you\'re purchasing similar grade parts. It is possible to additionally lower the cost of components you select by choosing one\'s that are equal in speed but rated for consumer/gamer use instead of server grade. etc.
One interesting note is that when considering machines with same or similar components the Mac Pro from 2006 through to 2008 were pretty close to the same cost as a roll-your-own box. In 2009 however they for no apparent reason added almost $2000 to the price tag of every Mac Pro. So where once Mac Pro was a pretty good deal for the components you got Apple has joined the ranks of over-chargers. Sad but true. So if you want an Apple per-chance look for a new 2008 model which can still be had - here and there or on Apple\'s over-stock/referb pages. The higher spec\'d ones are essentially $6,000 boxes selling for $4,000.
Since this thread is about machines specifically for photoshop it\'s also important to note that clock speed is much more important then number of cores and that the amount of RAM is critical to over-all speed. SSD units as cache and scratch drives are also critical components for improving PS\'s performance! Rotational media can not compete - this is also true for every photo editing and photo browsing application I have tested.
Bifurcator wrote:
BYO is much cheaper these days again for mid to high-spec machines.
Dpic_arctic wrote:
At about what price point do you start to save?
Well generally speaking:
A typical $6,000 preassembled machine can be built for a little less than $4,000 ***
A $4,000 machine can be built for $3,000.
A $2,000 machine can be put together for $1,500
A $900 machine can be put together for $800 to $850.
*** And in so doing the specification is additionally raised considerably. Like the MB you select will accept 12, 18, or 24 DIMM modules at 16 GB each for a total of a hell of a lot of RAM. Or it sports 8 SATA and 8 SAS connections, Or it has 1 or 2 extra PCIx slots, etc. where the prebuilt ones will be limited to 8 RAM slots, and maybe either/or on the Drive connections. You\'ll additionally be able to select a much better power supply maybe and etc. etc.
And this is all assuming that you\'re purchasing similar grade parts. It is possible to additionally lower the cost of components you select by choosing one\'s that are equal in speed but rated for consumer/gamer use instead of server grade. etc.
One interesting note is that when considering machines with same or similar components the Mac Pro from 2006 through to 2008 were pretty close to the same cost as a roll-your-own box. In 2009 however they for no apparent reason added almost $2000 to the price tag of every Mac Pro. So where once Mac Pro was a pretty good deal for the components you got Apple has joined the ranks of over-chargers. Sad but true. So if you want an Apple per-chance look for a new 2008 model which can still be had - here and there or on Apple\'s over-stock/referb pages. The higher spec\'d ones are essentially $6,000 boxes selling for $4,000.
Since this thread is about machines specifically for photoshop it\'s also important to note that clock speed is much more important then number of cores and that the amount of RAM is critical to over-all speed. SSD units as cache and scratch drives are also critical components for improving PS\'s performance! Rotational media can not compete - this is also true for every photo editing and browsing application I have tested.
Bifurcator wrote:
BYO is much cheaper these days again for mid to high-spec machines.
Dpic_arctic wrote:
At about what price point do you start to save?
Well generally speaking:
A typical $6,000 preassembled machine can be built for a little less than $4,000 ***
A $4,000 machine can be built for $3,000.
A $2,000 machine can be put together for $1,500
A $900 machine can be put together for $800 to $850.
*** And in so doing the specification is additionally raised considerably. Like the MB you select will accept 12, 18, or 24 DIMM modules at 16 GB each for a total of a hell of a lot of RAM. Or it sports 8 SATA and 8 SAS connections, Or it has 1 or 2 extra PCIx slots, etc. where the prebuilt ones will be limited to 8 RAM slots, and maybe either/or on the Drive connections. You\'ll additionally be able to select a much better power supply maybe and etc. etc.
And this is all assuming that you\'re purchasing similar grade parts. It is possible to additionally lower the cost of components you select by choosing one\'s that are equal in speed but rated for consumer/gamer use instead of server grade. etc.
One interesting note is that when considering machines with same or similar components the Mac Pro from 2006 through to 2008 were pretty close to the same cost as a roll-your-own box. In 2009 however they for no apparent reason added almost $2000 to the price tag of every Mac Pro. So where once Mac Pro was a pretty good deal for the components you got Apple has joined the ranks of over-chargers. Sad but true. So if you want an Apple per-chance look for a new 2008 model which can still be had - here and there or on Apple\'s over-stock/referb pages. The higher spec\'d ones are essentially $6,000 boxes selling for $4,000.
Since this thread is about machines specifically for photoshop it\'s also important to note that clock speed is much more important then number of cores and that the amount of RAM is critical to over-all speed. SSD units as cache and scratch drives are also critical components for improving PS\'s performance! Rotational media can not compete.
Bifurcator wrote:
BYO is much cheaper these days again for mid to high-spec machines.
Dpic_arctic wrote:
At about what price point do you start to save?
Well generally speaking:
A typical $6,000 preassembled machine can be built for a little less than $4,000 ***
A $4,000 machine can be built for $3,000.
A $2,000 machine can be put together for $1,500
A $900 machine can be put together for $800 to $850.
*** And in so doing the specification is additionally raised considerably. Like the MB you select will accept 12, 18, or 24 DIMM modules at 16 GB each for a total of a hell of a lot of RAM. Or it sports 8 SATA and 8 SAS connections, Or it has 1 or 2 extra PCIx slots, etc. where the prebuilt ones will be limited to 8 RAM slots, and maybe either/or on the Drive connections. You\'ll additionally be able to select a much better power supply maybe and etc. etc.
And this is all assuming that you\'re purchasing similar grade parts. It is possible to additionally lower the cost of components you select by choosing one\'s that are equal in speed but rated for consumer/gamer use instead of server grade. etc.
One interesting note is that when considering machines with same or similar components the Mac Pro from 2006 through to 2008 were pretty close to the same cost as a roll-your-own box. In 2009 however they for no apparent reason added almost $2000 to the price tag of every Mac Pro. So where once Mac Pro was a pretty good deal for the components you got Apple has joined the ranks of over-chargers. Sad but true. So if you want an Apple per-chance look for a new 2008 model which can still be had - here and there or on Apple\'s over-stock/referb pages. The higher spec\'d ones are essentially $6,000 boxes selling for $4,000.
Bifurcator wrote:
BYO is much cheaper these days again for mid to high-spec machines.
Dpic_arctic wrote:
At about what price point do you start to save?
Well generally speaking:
A typical $6,000 preassembled machine can be built for a little less than $4,000 ***
A $4,000 machine can be built for $3,000.
A $2,000 machine can be put together for $1,500
A $900 machine can be put together for $800 to $850.
*** And in so doing the specification is additionally raised considerably. Like the MB you select will accept 12, 18, or 24 DIMM modules at 16 GB each for a total of a hell of a lot of RAM. Or it sports 8 SATA and 8 SAS connections, Or it has 1 or 2 extra PCIx slots, etc. where the prebuilt ones will be limited to 8 RAM slots, and maybe either/or on the Drive connections. You\'ll additionally be able to select a much better power supply maybe and etc. etc.
And this is all assuming that you\'re purchasing similar grade parts. It is possible to additionally lower the cost of components you select by choosing one\'s that are equal in speed but rated for consumer/gamer use instead of server grade. etc.
One interesting note is that when considering machines with same or similar components the Mac Pro from 2006 through to 2008 were pretty close to the same cost as a roll-your-own box. In 2009 however they for no apparent reason added almost $2000 to the price tag of every Mac Pro. So where once Mac Pro was a pretty good deal for the components you got Apple has joined the ranks of over-chargers. Sad but true. So if you want an Apple per-chance look for a new 2008 model which can still be had - here and there or on Apple\'s over-stock/referb pages.The higher spec\'d ones are essentially $6,000 boxes selling for $4,000.
Bifurcator wrote:
BYO is much cheaper these days again for mid to high-spec machines.
Dpic_arctic wrote:
At about what price point do you start to save?
Well generally speaking:
A typical $6,000 preassembled machine can be built for a little less than $4,000 ***
A $4,000 machine can be built for $3,000.
A $2,000 machine can be put together for $1,500
A $900 machine can be put together for $800 to $850.
*** And in so doing the specification is additionally raised considerably. Like the MB you select will accept 12, 18, or 24 DIMM modules at 16 GB each for a total of a hell of a lot of RAM. Or it sports 8 SATA and 8 SAS connections, Or it has 1 or 2 extra PCIx slots, etc. where the prebuilt ones will be limited to 8 RAM slots, and maybe either/or on the Drive connections. You\'ll additionally be able to select a much better power supply maybe and etc. etc.
And this is all assuming that you\'re purchasing similar grade parts. It is possible to additionally lower the cost of components you select by choosing one\'s that are equal in speed but rated for consumer/gamer use instead of server grade. etc.
One interesting note is that when considering machines with same or similar components the Mac Pro from 2006 through to 2008 were pretty close to the same cost as a roll-your-own box. In 2009 however they for no apparent reason added almost $2000 to the price tag of every Mac Pro. So where once Mac Pro was a pretty good deal for the components you got Apple has joined the ranks of over-chargers. Sad but true. So if you want an Apple per-chance look for a new 2008 model which can still be had - here and there or on Apple\'s over-stock/referb pages.
Bifurcator wrote:
BYO is much cheaper these days again for mid to high-spec machines.
Dpic_arctic wrote:
At about what price point do you start to save?
Well generally speaking:
A typical $6,000 preassembled machine can be built for a little less than $4,000 ***
A $4,000 machine can be built for $3,000.
A $2,000 machine can be put together for $1,500
A $900 machine can be put together for $800 to $850.
*** And in so doing the specification is additionally raised considerably. Like the MB you select will accept 12, 18, or 24 DIMM modules at 16 GB each for a total of a hell of a lot of RAM. Or it sports 8 SATA and 8 SAS connections, Or it has 1 or 2 extra PCIx slots, etc. where the prebuilt ones will be limited to 8 RAM slots, and maybe either/or on the Drive connections. You\'ll additionally be able to select a much better power supply maybe and etc. etc.
And this is all assuming that you\'re purchasing similar grade parts. It is possible to additionally lower the cost of components you select by choosing one\'s that are equal in speed but rated for consumer/gamer use instead of server grade. etc.
Bifurcator wrote:
BYO is much cheaper these days again for mid to high-spec machines.
Dpic_arctic wrote:
At about what price point do you start to save?
Well generally speaking:
A typical $6,000 preassembled machine can be built for a little less than $4,000 ***
A $4,000 machine can be built for $3,000.
A $2,000 machine can be put together for $1,500
A $900 machine can be put together for $800 to $850.
*** And in so doing the specification is additionally raised considerably. Like the MB you select will accept 12, 18, or 24 DIMM modules at 16 GB each for a total of a hell of a lot of RAM. Or it sports 8 SATA and 8 SAS connections, Or it has 1 or 2 extra PCIx slots, etc. where the prebuilt ones will be limited to 8 RAM slots, and maybe either/or on the Drive connections. You\'ll additionally be able to select a much better power supply maybe and etc. etc.
Bifurcator wrote:
BYO is much cheaper these days again for mid to high-spec machines.
Dpic_arctic wrote:
At about what price point do you start to save?
Well generally speaking:
A typical $6,000 preassembled machine can be built for a little less than $4,000 ***
A $4,000 machine can be built for $3,000.
A $2,000 machine can be put together for $1,500
A $900 machine can be put together for $800 to $850.
*** And in so doing the specification is additionally raised considerably. Like the MB you select will accept 12, 18, or 24 DIMM modules at 16 GB each for a total of a hell of a lot of RAM. Or it sports 8 SATA and 8 SAS connections, etc. where the prebuilt ones will be limited to 8 RAM slots, and maybe either/or on the Drive connections. You\'ll additionally be able to select a much better power supply maybe and etc. etc.
Dpic_arctic wrote: Bifurcator wrote:
BYO is much cheaper these days again for mid to high-spec machines.
At about what price point do you start to save?
Well generally speaking:
A typical $6,000 preassembled machine can be built for a little less than $4,000 ***
A $4,000 machine can be built for $3,000.
A $2,000 machine can be put together for $1,500
A $900 machine can be put together for $800 to $850.
*** And in so doing the specification is additionally raised considerably. Like the MB you select will accept 12, 18, or 24 DIMM modules at 16 GB each for a total of a hell of a lot of RAM. Or it sports 8 SATA and 8 SAS connections, etc. where the prebuilt ones will be limited to 8 RAM slots, and maybe either/or on the Drive connections. You\'ll additionally be able to select a much better power supply maybe and etc. etc.
Dpic_arctic wrote: Bifurcator wrote:
BYO is much cheaper these days again for mid to high-spec machines.
At about what price point do you start to save?
Well generally speaking:
A typical $6,000 preassembled machine can be built for a little less than $4,000 ***
A $4,000 machine can be built for $3,000.
A $2,000 machine can be put together for $1,500
A $900 machine can be put together for $800 to $850.
*** And in so doing the specification is additionally raised considerably. Like the MB you select will accept 12, 18, or 24 DIMM modules at 16 GB each for a total of a hell of a lot of RAM. Or it sports 8 SATA and 8 SAS connections, etc. where the prebuilt ones will be limited to 8 RAM slots, and maybe either or on the Drive connections. You\'ll additionally be able to select a much better power supply maybe and etc. etc.
Jan 15, 2010 at 07:39 PM
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Sad but true. So if you want an Apple per-chance look for a new 2008 model which can still be had - here and there or on Apple\'s over-stock/referb pages. The higher spec\'d ones are essentially $6,000 boxes selling for $4,000. 
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