abqnmusa wrote:
You can see this \"mazing\" in any camera viewed at 200% plus. I saw it in the full frame 5D, 20D, 10D, 40D, 7D, D3, D300. But not at 100%
Looking at at image beyond 100% is just created artifacts that are not in the data. There is nothing beyond 100% in the image.
that is ridiculous that would be like saying printing at different sizes of viewing on different monitors makes up RAW data
(note I didn\'t use interpolation, just 1 pixel to 4 pixels straight blow up)
and it just makes it clearer that the harshness is due to mazing and not just general noise or something else and prevent jpg compression from altering the patterns
and as for you can see it any camera, well I never noticed it in any images I processed from all those other cameras and I noticed it in the very first 7D image I ever procesed (the IR test shot) and even when i applied crazy amounts of processing I still could only make out the barest hints of it with the other cameras, if even.
some 7D do seem to resist it noticeably better than others and only marginally worse than the other canons so it might not matter with those copies
and yes i know at the end of the day, for many photos it\'s lighting that matters more than what camera or lens or anything
for my usage, since I do already have a 5D2, I would be doing lots of heavy crops since the 7D would mostly be my \"reach\" body and i\'m not so sure that my old 50D didn\'t do better at that (although it did have worse AF, was slower, etc.) than my 7D copies (although some copies like pauls might do better)
and do we really want canon to go this way with future bodies where the exact raw converter is now suddenly a critical issue and unless you buy 4 bodies and cherry pick the best one, you need to mess around with trading off fine detail vs. artifacts when a little better QC and/or the older design might mean just tossing files around however you like as with the previous releases?
abqnmusa wrote:
You can see this \"mazing\" in any camera viewed at 200% plus. I saw it in the full frame 5D, 20D, 10D, 40D, 7D, D3, D300. But not at 100%
Looking at at image beyond 100% is just created artifacts that are not in the data. There is nothing beyond 100% in the image.
that is ridiculous that would be like saying printing at different sizes of viewing on different monitors makes up RAW data
(note I didn\'t use interpolation, just 1 pixel to 4 pixels straight blow up)
and it just makes it clearer that the harshness is due to mazing and not just general noise or something else and prevent jpg compression from altering the patterns
and as for you can see it any camera, well I never noticed it in any images I processed from all those other cameras and I noticed it in the very first 7D image I ever procesed (the IR test shot) and even when i applied crazy amounts of processing I still could only make out the barest hints of it with the other cameras, if even.
some 7D do seem to resist it noticeably better than others and only marginally worse than the other canons so it might not matter with those copies
and yes i know at the end of the day, for many photos it\'s lighting that matters more than what camera or lens or anything
for my usage, since I do already have a 5D2, I would be doing lots of heavy crops since the 7D would mostly be my \"reach\" body and i\'m not so sure that my old 50D didn\'t do better at that (although it did have worse AF, was slower, etc.) than my 7D copies (although some copies like pauls might do better)
abqnmusa wrote:
You can see this \"mazing\" in any camera viewed at 200% plus. I saw it in the full frame 5D, 20D, 10D, 40D, 7D, D3, D300. But not at 100%
Looking at at image beyond 100% is just created artifacts that are not in the data. There is nothing beyond 100% in the image.
that is ridiculous that would be like saying printing at different sizes of viewing on different monitors makes up RAW data
(note I didn\'t use interpolation, just 1 pixel to 4 pixels straight blow up)
and it just makes it clearer that the harshness is due to mazing and not just general noise or something else and prevent jpg compression from altering the patterns
and as for you can see it any camera, well I never noticed it in any images I processed from all those other cameras and I noticed it in the very first 7D image I ever procesed (the IR test shot) and even when i applied crazy amounts of processing I still could only make out the barest hints of it with the other cameras, if even.
some 7D do seem to resist it noticeably better than others and only marginally worse than the other canons so it might not matter with those copies
abqnmusa wrote:
You can see this \"mazing\" in any camera viewed at 200% plus. I saw it in the full frame 5D, 20D, 10D, 40D, 7D, D3, D300. But not at 100%
Looking at at image beyond 100% is just created artifacts that are not in the data. There is nothing beyond 100% in the image.
that is ridiculous that would be like saying printing at different sizes of viewing on different monitors makes up RAW data
(note I didn\'t use interpolation, just 1 pixel to 4 pixels straight blow up)
and it just makes it clearer that the harshness is due to mazing and not just general noise or something else and prevent jpg compression from altering the patterns
Nov 17, 2009 at 05:38 PM
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