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I haven\'t done any of the raw analysis tests but you certainly still can see it with ACR 5.5 style-demosaic, I think it doesn\'t happen as much as with mine, but it is still not gone or as smooth as from a 20D-50D.


ACR 20 sharpness, 0.5 radius, 25 detail, 0 masking, 0 luma NR, 9 chroma NR
and then an agressive sharpening of first pass smartsharpen with radius 0.6 at 80% and then second pass with 100% and 0.3 and then 70% at 0.1 or with a bit less agressive 0.6 at 50%, 0.2 at 90% and 0.1 at 70% (less evident but still there a bit on a few patches). Doing the same with a 20D or 50D gives one no mazing whatsoever AND smoother looking patches (granted the 20D is only giving 8MP so that is not fair but the 50D\'s 15MP are close to the 18MP of the 7D).

I haven\'t tried it with C1 yet.

It did appear to not show up quite as easily as with either of my two copies.

Anyway, even his copy still doesn\'t really play as well with typical standard demosaic that were used before.

Hopefully ACR 5.6 works some magic.

Of course if you just want fast speed and better AF and better performance and don\'t care about every last ounce of reach then even my copies do a lot better than a 40D pretty much every which way, since certainly by 10MP the artifacts are gone and it gives a little better detail and less noise and banding than a 40D, etc.

Where it might start to matter is if one of the two prime purpose of the cam is as an extra body for heavy cropping of distant subjects at low to moderate ISO. I\'m not sure, but I wonder if a 50D wouldn\'t do that a bit more smoothly looking with the current RAW conveters at least.

And regardless of anything, and it probably won\'t be the end of the world in the end, personally I don\'t like this sort of compromise and I think they\'d be better off giving back a tiny bit of whatever, if anything, this gained them and going back to old style CFA/AMPs for future sensors. I could be wrong, but I don\'t see how this is gaining them anything in the real world, maybe on pre-demosaic tests like DxO do maybe it can gain them though, but what does that matter in the end.... So I don\'t mind raising a stink if they go back to a hardware system that makes RAW processing easier to deal with.

Where are all those who at one time used to sing how silky smooth Canon images could be?



Nov 11, 2009 at 04:23 PM
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I haven\'t done any of the raw analysis tests but you certainly still can see it with ACR 5.5 style-demosaic, I think it doesn\'t happen as much as with mine, but it is still not gone or as smooth as from a 20D-50D.




Nov 11, 2009 at 04:09 PM





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