jorkata wrote: Sam_S wrote:
Compared to the 40D, what kind of difference is there with noise in the 200-400 ISO range.
We\'ll have to wait for more formal tests but from what I\'ve seen so far, the 7D pixel level performance at ISO 100-800 seems to be the same as on the 50D.
Which makes me wonder: for the past five years, since the 20D in 2004, Canon has increased the megapixels from 8 to 18, while ISO at the pixel level has not improved.
So, are they ever going to improve the ISO on crop cameras or one should better start saving for FF in order to get better ISO?
I\'m definitely looking forward to the FF successor to the 5Dmk2. I doesn\'t matter what they call it. 5Dmk3, 3D, whatever...
We may be reaching theoretical limits to ISO performance with the crop sensor form-factor. From what I understand (and I don\'t own one), ISO performance from 100-800 was reasonably good for the 50D, but at higher ISO it was bad? From what I have read, the 7D outperforms the 50D (no pattern noise, etc.) at higher ISO settings.
So, the net of this is that we\'re getting much better AF performance and overall slightly better ISO performance, with an extra 3mp available for cropping images and making slightly bigger prints? Add a few other nice features (flash control, 1080p HD video, etc.) and I think the 7D is a pretty nice overall \"package.\"
At this writing, the video component sells itself alone for those who will use the camera for that purpose. The video forums are full of people lusting over this \"imaging device.\" Within certain limitations, much professional video will be shot with this platform within the next year.
jorkata wrote: Sam_S wrote:
Compared to the 40D, what kind of difference is there with noise in the 200-400 ISO range.
We\'ll have to wait for more formal tests but from what I\'ve seen so far, the 7D pixel level performance at ISO 100-800 seems to be the same as on the 50D.
Which makes me wonder: for the past five years, since the 20D in 2004, Canon has increased the megapixels from 8 to 18, while ISO at the pixel level has not improved.
So, are they ever going to improve the ISO on crop cameras or one should better start saving for FF in order to get better ISO?
I\'m definitely looking forward to the FF successor to the 5Dmk2. I doesn\'t matter what they call it. 5Dmk3, 3D, whatever...
We may be reaching theoretical limits to ISO performance with the crop sensor form-factor. From what I understand (and I don\'t own one), ISO performance from 100-800 was reasonably good for the 50D, but at higher ISO it was bad? From what I have read, the 7D outperforms the 50D (no pattern noise, etc.) at higher ISO settings.
So, the net of this is that we\'re getting much better AF performance and slightly better ISO performance, with an extra 3mp available for cropping images and making slightly bigger prints? Add a few other nice features (flash control, 1080p HD video, etc.) and I think the 7D is a pretty nice overall \"package.\"
At this writing, the video component sells itself alone for those who will use the camera for that purpose. The video forums are full of people lusting over this \"imaging device.\" Within certain limitations, much professional video will be shot with this platform within the next year.
jorkata wrote: Sam_S wrote:
Compared to the 40D, what kind of difference is there with noise in the 200-400 ISO range.
We\'ll have to wait for more formal tests but from what I\'ve seen so far, the 7D pixel level performance at ISO 100-800 seems to be the same as on the 50D.
Which makes me wonder: for the past five years, since the 20D in 2004, Canon has increased the megapixels from 8 to 18, while ISO at the pixel level has not improved.
So, are they ever going to improve the ISO on crop cameras or one should better start saving for FF in order to get better ISO?
I\'m definitely looking forward to the FF successor to the 5Dmk2. I doesn\'t matter what they call it. 5Dmk3, 3D, whatever...
We may be reaching theoretical limits to ISO performance with the crop sensor form-factor. From what I understand (and I don\'t own one), ISO performance from 100-800 was reasonably good for the 50D, but at higher ISO it was bad? From what I have read, the 7D outperforms the 50D (no pattern noise, etc.) at higher ISO settings.
So, the net of this is that we\'re getting much better AF performance and slightly better ISO performance, with an extra 3mp available for cropping images and making slightly bigger prints? Add a few other nice features (flash control, 1080p HD video, etc.) and I think the 7D is a pretty nice overall \"package.\"
At this writing, the video component sells itself alone for those who will use the camera for that purpose. The video forums are full of people lusting over this \"imaging device.\"
jorkata wrote: Sam_S wrote:
Compared to the 40D, what kind of difference is there with noise in the 200-400 ISO range.
We\'ll have to wait for more formal tests but from what I\'ve seen so far, the 7D pixel level performance at ISO 100-800 seems to be the same as on the 50D.
Which makes me wonder: for the past five years, since the 20D in 2004, Canon has increased the megapixels from 8 to 18, while ISO at the pixel level has not improved.
So, are they ever going to improve the ISO on crop cameras or one should better start saving for FF in order to get better ISO?
I\'m definitely looking forward to the FF successor to the 5Dmk2. I doesn\'t matter what they call it. 5Dmk3, 3D, whatever...
We may be reaching theoretical limits to ISO performance with the crop sensor form-factor. From what I understand (and I don\'t own one), ISO performance from 100-800 was reasonably good for the 50D, but at higher ISO it was bad? From what I have read, the 7D outperforms the 50D (no pattern noise, etc.) at higher ISO settings.
So, the net of this is that we\'re getting much better AF performance and slightly better ISO performance, with an extra 3mp available for cropping images and making slightly bigger prints? Add a few other nice features (flash control, 1080p HD video, etc.) and I think the 7D is a pretty nice overall \"package.\"
Oct 02, 2009 at 01:35 PM
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