Thanks Conscience. I can see past the tone of your OP and agree.
The problem isn\'t the copying. We all enjoy getting feedback and constructive criticism. And we\'ve all benefitted from seeing others\' work, having direct correspondence, and emulating.
The problem is the practice of copying, not adding your own flavor, and then selling it for an industry-killing $500. Basically taking what generous people have given them -- personally rewarding, potentially profitable knowledge -- and gradually stabbing them in the back with it. The ones who don\'t pay it forward, but just take away energy, like parasites.
It\'s fine to trace as a learning exercise, but artists -- even budding ones -- have the pride and conscience to put their own spin on it when it comes to the paid commission work. (Otherwise its plagiarism.) One who does that earns the right to be proud of their abilities. And they\'ll also take it upon themselves to respect the industry, and their mentors, by not undermining it.
We come here for community. The true value of community is networking. Networking is developing mutually beneficial relationships. Whether its technical skills, artistic technique, or feel-good ego satisfaction (and there\'s nothing wrong with this), the currency here in this community is inspiration.
Mutually beneficial relationships are symbiotic, not parasitic. There\'s the clownfish and anenome.
...And then there\'s leeches.
Personally, that\'s probably the biggest reason why I rarely post images here now. Several FMer\'s have told me the same thing. FM is a good nework, in some ways as good as the play-to-play networks like DWF, its just that the heavier amount of obvious leeching that goes on can be bit of a downer.
Thanks Conscience. I can see past the tone of your OP and agree.
The problem isn\'t the copying. We all enjoy getting feedback and constructive criticism. And we\'ve all benefitted from seeing others\' work, having direct correspondence, and emulating.
The problem is the practice of copying is not contributing back by adding your own flavor, and then turning around and selling it for an industry-killing $500. Basically taking what generous people have given them -- personally rewarding, potentially profitable knowledge -- and gradually stabbing them in the back with it. The ones who don\'t pay it forward, but just take away energy, like parasites.
It\'s fine to trace as a learning exercise, but artists -- even budding ones -- have the pride and conscience to put their own spin on it when it comes to the paid commission work. (Otherwise its plagiarism.) One who does that earns the right to be proud of their abilities. And they\'ll also take it upon themselves to respect the industry, and their mentors, by not undermining it.
We come here for community. The true value of community is networking. Networking is developing mutually beneficial relationships. Whether its technical skills, artistic technique, or feel-good ego satisfaction (and there\'s nothing wrong with this), the currency here in this community is inspiration.
Mutually beneficial relationships are symbiotic, not parasitic. There\'s the clownfish and anenome.
...And then there\'s leeches.
Personally, that\'s probably the biggest reason why I rarely post images here now. Several FMer\'s have told me the same thing. FM is a good nework, in some ways as good as the play-to-play networks like DWF, its just that the heavier amount of obvious leeching that goes on can be bit of a downer.
Thanks Conscience. I can see past the tone of your OP and agree.
The problem isn\'t the copying. We all enjoy getting feedback and constructive criticism. And we\'ve all benefitted from seeing others\' work, having direct correspondence, and emulating.
The problem is the practice of copying, claiming others\' creativity, techniques, and ideas as your own, not contributing back by adding your own flavor... And then turning around and selling it for an industry-killing $500. Basically taking what generous people have given them--personally rewarding, potentially profitable knowledge--and gradually stabbing them in the back with it. The ones who don\'t pay it forward, but just take away energy, like parasites.
It\'s fine to trace as a learning exercise, but artists -- even budding ones -- have the pride and conscience to put their own spin on it when it comes to the paid commission work. (Otherwise its plagiarism.) One who does that earns the right to be proud of their abilities. And they\'ll also take it upon themselves to respect the industry, and their mentors, by not undermining it.
We come here for community. The true value of community is networking. Networking is developing mutually beneficial relationships. Whether its technical skills, artistic technique, or feel-good ego satisfaction (and there\'s nothing wrong with this), the currency here in this community is inspiration.
Mutually beneficial relationships are symbiotic, not parasitic. There\'s the clownfish and anenome.
...And then there\'s leeches.
Personally, that\'s probably the biggest reason why I rarely post images here now. Several FMer\'s have told me the same thing. FM is a good nework, in some ways as good as the play-to-play networks like DWF, its just that the heavier amount of obvious leeching that goes on can be bit of a downer.
Thanks Conscience. I can see past the tone of your OP and agree.
The problem isn\'t the copying. We all enjoy getting feedback and constructive criticism. And we\'ve all benefitted from seeing others\' work, having direct correspondence, and emulating.
The problem is the practice of copying, claiming others\' creativity, techniques, and ideas as your own, not contributing back by adding your own flavor... And then turning around and selling it for an industry-killing $500. Basically taking what generous people have given them--personally rewarding, potentially profitable knowledge--and gradually stabbing them in the back with it. The ones who don\'t pay it forward, but just take away energy, like parasites.
It\'s fine to trace as a learning exercise, but artists -- even budding ones -- have the pride and conscience to put their own spin on it when it comes to the paid commission work. (Otherwise its plagiarism.) One who does that earns the right to be proud of their abilities. And they\'ll also take it upon themselves to respect the industry, and their mentors, by not undermining it.
We come here for community. The true value of community is networking. Networking is developing mutually beneficial relationships. Whether its technical skills, artistic technique, or feel-good ego satisfaction (and there\'s nothing wrong with this), the currency here in this community is inspiration.
Mutually beneficial relationships are symbiotic, not parasitic. There\'s the clownfish and anenome.
...And then there\'s leeches.
Personally, that\'s probably the biggest reason why I rarely post images here now. Several FMer\'s have told me the same thing. This is a good nework, its just that the leeches are bit of a downer.
Thanks Conscience. I can see past the tone of your OP and agree.
The problem isn\'t the copying. We all enjoy getting feedback and constructive criticism. And we\'ve all benefitted from seeing others\' work, having direct correspondence, and emulating.
The problem is the practice of copying, claiming others\' creativity, techniques, and ideas as your own, not contributing back by adding your own flavor... And then turning around and selling it for an industry-killing $500. Basically taking what generous people have given them--rewarding, potentially profitable knowledge--and gradually stabbing them in the back with it. That\'s a parasite.
It\'s fine to trace as a learning exercise, but artists -- even budding ones -- have the pride and conscience to put their own spin on it when it comes to the paid commission work. (Otherwise its plagiarism.) One who does that earns the right to be proud of their abilities. And they\'ll also take it upon themselves to respect the industry, and their mentors, by not undermining it.
We come here for community. The true value of community is networking. Networking is developing mutually beneficial relationships. Whether its technical skills, artistic technique, or feel-good ego satisfaction (and there\'s nothing wrong with this), the currency here in this community is inspiration.
Mutually beneficial relationships are symbiotic, not parasitic. There\'s the clownfish and anenome.
...And then there\'s leeches.
Personally, that\'s probably the biggest reason why I rarely post images here now. Several FMer\'s have told me the same thing. It\'s just a bit of a downer.
Thanks Conscience. I can see past the tone of your OP and agree.
The problem isn\'t the copying. We all enjoy getting feedback and constructive criticism. And we\'ve all benefitted from seeing others\' work, having direct correspondence, and emulating.
The problem is the practice of copying, claiming others\' creativity, techniques, and ideas as your own, not contributing back by adding your own flavor... And then turning around and selling it for an industry-killing $500. Basically taking what generous people have given them--rewarding, potentially profitable knowledge--and gradually stabbing them in the back with it. That\'s a parasite.
It\'s fine to trace as a learning exercise, but artists -- even budding ones -- have the pride and conscience to put their own spin on it when it comes to the paid commission work. (Otherwise its plagiarism.) One who does that earns the right to be proud of their abilities. And they\'ll also take it upon themselves to respect the industry, and their mentors, by not undermining it.
We come here for community. The true value of community is networking. Networking is developing mutually beneficial relationships. Whether its technical skills, artistic technique, or feel-good ego satisfaction (and there\'s nothing wrong with this), the currency here in this community is inspiration.
Mutually beneficial relationships are symbiotic, not parasitic. There\'s the clownfish and anenome.
...And then there\'s leeches.
That\'s the biggest reason why I rarely post images here now. Several FMer\'s have told me the same thing in person and in PM. No names, cause no doubt you\'d know them.
Btw, notice the price points of those who rail against this.
Thanks Conscience. I can see past the tone of your OP and agree.
The problem isn\'t the copying. We all enjoy getting feedback and constructive criticism. And we\'ve all benefitted from seeing others\' work, having direct correspondence, and emulating.
The problem is the practice of copying, claiming others\' creativity, techniques, and ideas as your own, not contributing back by adding your own flavor... And then turning around and selling it for an industry-killing $500. Basically taking what generous people have given them--rewarding, potentially profitable knowledge--and gradually stabbing them in the back with it. That\'s a parasite.
It\'s fine to trace as a learning exercise, but artists -- even budding ones -- have the pride and conscience to put their own spin on it when it comes to the paid commission work. (Otherwise its plagiarism.) One who does that earns the right to be proud of their abilities. And they\'ll also take it upon themselves to respect the industry, and their mentors, by not undermining it.
We come here for community. The true value of community is networking. Networking is developing mutually beneficial relationships. Whether its technical skills, artistic technique, or feel-good ego satisfaction (and there\'s nothing wrong with this), the currency here in this community is inspiration.
Mutually beneficial relationships are symbiotic, not parasitic. There\'s the clownfish and anenome.
...And then there\'s leeches.
That\'s the biggest reason why I rarely post images here now. Several FMer\'s have told me the same thing in person and in PM. No names, cause no doubt you\'d know them.
Btw, notice the price points of those who are railing against this.
Thanks Conscience. I can see past the tone of your OP and agree.
The problem isn\'t the copying. We all enjoy getting feedback and constructive criticism. And we\'ve all benefitted from seeing others\' work, having direct correspondence, and emulating.
The problem is the practice of copying, claiming others\' creativity, techniques, and ideas as your own, not contributing back by adding your own flavor... And then turning around and selling it for an industry-killing $500. Basically taking what generous people have given them--rewarding, potentially profitable knowledge--and gradually stabbing them in the back with it. That\'s a parasite.
It\'s fine to trace as a learning exercise, but artists -- even budding ones -- have the pride and conscience to put their own spin on it when it comes to the paid commission work. (Otherwise its plagiarism.) One who does that earns the right to be proud of their abilities. And they\'ll also take it upon themselves to respect the industry, and their mentors, by not undermining it.
We come here for community. The true value of community is networking. Networking is developing mutually beneficial relationships. Whether its technical skills, artistic technique, or feel-good ego satisfaction (and there\'s nothing wrong with this), the currency here in this community is inspiration.
Mutually beneficial relationships are symbiotic, not parasitic. There\'s the clownfish and anenome.
...And then there\'s leeches.
That\'s the biggest reason why I rarely post images here now. Several former and fading FMer\'s will agree.
The problem isn\'t copying. We all enjoy getting feedback and constructive criticism. And we\'ve all benefitted from seeing others\' work, having direct correspondence, and emulating.
The problem is copying, claiming others\' creativity, techniques, and ideas as your own, not contributing back by adding your own flavor... And then turning around and selling it for an industry-killing $500. Basically taking what generous people have given them--rewarding, potentially profitable knowledge--and ever-so-slowly stabbing them in the long-term back with it. That\'s a parasite.
It\'s fine to trace as a learning exercise, but artists -- even budding ones -- have the pride and conscience to put their own spin on it when it comes to the paid commission work. (Otherwise its plagiarism.) One who does that earns the right to be proud of their abilities. And they\'ll also take it upon themselves to respect the industry, and their mentors, by not undermining it.
We come here for community. The true value of community is networking. Networking is developing mutually beneficial relationships. Whether its technical skills, artistic technique, or feel-good ego satisfaction (and there\'s nothing wrong with this), the currency here in this community is inspiration.
Mutually beneficial relationships are symbiotic, not parasitic. There\'s the clownfish and anenome.
...And then there\'s leeches.
That\'s the biggest reason why I rarely post images here now. Several former and fading FMer\'s will agree.
-m
Jan 09, 2009 at 02:26 PM
Previous versions of mauriceramirez's message #6577222 « Anyone can Trace »
