skibum5 wrote:
i don\'t recall the issue off hand.
best i can do is pre-2008 issue and post 2004
i may come across it again eventually when i clean up some old piles of magazines eventually
all I recall is that they said that the best color print film was sharper than the best color slide film and that the 1DsMkIII revealed a little bit more detail than the best color print film they compared it to
of course they have also said stuff like D200 has better high ISO than 30D (i think)
Well, I think I recall reading a similar article from whatever magazine saying the other way round, slides are better than film, that is why lots of photogs take slides and print from slides with the positive to negative conversion (taking the loss into consideration).
For the digital to film comparison, I would rather not get into because it can fuel a whole new thread. But after reading research reports done by Fuji, Kodak, Leitz, Zeiss and others, I beleive in those people that it will take a sensor with over 200MP using a Bayer GRGB color layout to reach the standard of present day 35mm film. For Foveon sensor with RGB stack will require less MP.
And taking the present day semicon industry standard we are not there yet to meet the photo site size and noise requirement.
By than we will not need to have an AA filter for it. One can almost forget about the moire effect.
Lens manufacturing standard will have to be improved because poor lenses does not meet resolution requirement.
As I said I will not get into a debate on this subject because it will need to review a lot of research that people are still working on, so count me wrong if you do not beleive in it.
Note: Color slides and color films of equivalent ISO. B&W cannot be use for this comparison.
skibum5 wrote:
i don\'t recall the issue off hand.
best i can do is pre-2008 issue and post 2004
i may come across it again eventually when i clean up some old piles of magazines eventually
all I recall is that they said that the best color print film was sharper than the best color slide film and that the 1DsMkIII revealed a little bit more detail than the best color print film they compared it to
of course they have also said stuff like D200 has better high ISO than 30D (i think)
Well, I think I recall reading a similar article from whatever magazine saying the other way round, slides are better than film, that is why lots of photogs take slides and print from slides with the positive to negative conversion (taking the loss into consideration).
For the digital to film comparison, I would rather not get into because it can fuel a whole new thread. But after reading research reports done by Fuji, Kodak, Leitz, Zeiss and others, I beleive in those people that it will take a sensor with over 200MP using a Bayer GRGB color layout to reach the standard of present day 35mm film. For Foveon sensor with RGB stack will require less MP.
And taking the present day semicon industry standard we are not there yet to meet the photo site size and noise requirement.
By than we will not need to have an AA filter for it. One can almost forget about the moire effect.
Lens manufacturing standard will have to be improved because poor lenses does not meet resolution requirement.
As I said I will not get into a debate on this subject because it will need to review a lot of research that people are still working on, so count me wrong if you do not beleive in it.
Oct 27, 2008 at 11:20 PM
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