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melcat wrote:
• It’s true that Capture One’s healing tool for dust removal isn’t fully automatic, like Photoshop’s, but IMO it’s better for that. Instead of having to heal multiple times with a smaller brush, second guessing what the tool will filll with, you can instead often drag the source area to somewhere more suitable. I don’t see anything archaic about the other tools in Capture One.
You can move the source area in ACR and LR, too.
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gregfountain wrote:
gdanmitchell wrote:
Jack Flesher wrote:
C1 is an excellent raw converter. It has functionality, deep independent control functionality on color, light, sharpening, sizing and all other basic conversion controls (except NR!) that aren’t in LR or ACR.
Jack, I don’t use and have not used C1. Can you enlighten me? Specifically, What does it do in these areas (“color, light, sharpening, sizing and all other basic conversion controls”) that ACR and LR can’t do?
Thanks.
I know you asked Jack, but for me, C1 imports a DNG file that looks a lot closer to what I saw when I took the shot. It's not an issue of LR/ACR/PS not being able to do the same, rather, it seems to give me a more accurate color and exposure starting point. I can't explain why. It may be an import setting in LR, but I checked/unchecked all the boxes google and YouTube told me to check to ensure it's the camera's settings that are applied to the imported file. I will say that if I open a file in PS from LR, and immediately go to ACR, and then click "auto" on the exposure panel, it looks right, and then I can set the black point to get accurate color, but finding a pure black point on an image isn't always possible.
I think what you are saying is that you are comfortable with the default settings you have in C1, and you re not comfortable with the default settings you choose in LR or ACR. I’ll agree that this might make C1 “better for you,” but once you find out which of the multitude of settings options and personal adjustments you prefer as your starting point in the Adobe software you just… save them and start that way every time.
Always good to have a choice.
I generally agree with that, and even though I’m not personally tempted by these alternatives to my Adobe workflow, I think that their existence is a useful reminder to Adobe that they aren’t the only game in town… and that if they slack off on features, quality of the apps, or pricing there will be others there ready to move in.
The initial release of LR, from what I understand, was a somewhat panicked Adobe reaction to just such a threat. Apple had developed their Aperture program to the point that it was becoming a very attractive alternative to the Photoshop system. It was a LR-like program (I understand that the development teams may have overlapped) that we extremely competent and sold at a much lower price point. Adobe saw this threat the very quickly rushed out early versions of LR that may or may not have been fully ready in order ot try to kill Aperture… and they succeeded, unfortunately.
I'll add that maybe I should simply drag and drop the files from the card into a folder, then open them directly into ACR. That seems to be what a lot of people do. Then LR become more of a file magement system vs the initial importer and editor. I'll try it.ot
I wondered a bit about your workflow. I usually don’t say much about LR based workflows, since I’m not really a LR guy. My workflow is Bridge/ACR/Photoshop. Here’s how it works for me.
1. I open Bridge and select “Import from Camera.” Bridge opens a little import app, and copies the raw files to folders on my computer. (I also allows me to rename the files in all sorts of useful ways as it imports, add copyright text, and do a few other useful things.)
2. Once the import finishes, a new window opens in Bridge that shows small views of the imported images along with some data about each file. (The displayed data can easily be customized.) Clicking an image (or a group of images) displays larger versions in the main window.
3. Double-clicking the small images opens them in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR). Some people still think of ACR as a “raw converter,” which it is. But it is much more than that these days. AS ACR has evolved, I now generally do the majority of my post-processing right in ACR, since I’m working on the raw files and because all edits are entirely non-destructive.
4. Once the file is adjusted to your taste, you click a button to open the file in Photoshop. I prefer to open it as a so-called “smart object.” This maintains a live connection back to ACR — you can double click the layer ina Photoshop and return to the ACR edit at any time and reedit the raw image itself, again non-destructively.
There’s a whole lot more to it than that. In fact, I am pretty sure that people who have not used the Bridge/ACR/Photoshop workflow are operating under some significant preconceptions about how this works that are no longer correct.
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