johnvanr wrote:
If I want a sense of a camera or lens, I don’t care if the images are esthetically pleasing. That’s not how you test a camera or lens.
Those YT videos are just entertainment or handy, that’s it.
Definitely take them with good dose of salt. They can be a stimulus for my own fodder of consideration ... but, definitely recognize that no matter how much they say they are not biased, there comes a degree of influence the mfr and the process of being an influencer has on the influencer.
Even as it is unintended bias ... you watch enough of them, and you come to realize the influencers have been influenced.
I mean, the same folks that a scant few months / years / product releases ago ... would decry the Leica / Hasselblad tools as being "questionable" choices when so many other options are available for both performance / price point.
Now, those same influencers are touting what a joyful experience (spec / price be darned) the Leica / Hasselblad experience is.
And, of those that I watched regarding the SL3-P ... ummm, I didn't see much mention of the SL3-P vs. S1R II. I mean, if you are REALLY going to be unbiased, that's a seemingly obvious question that is a bit of an elephant in the room. And yet, crickets by many. Bias through omission ...
Makes me wonder if there could be some contractual criteria that excludes such direct comparison ... i.e. limiting the discussion to the provided product only. Kinda like how they have (at times) been limited to revealing jpgs (vs. raw), and they acquiesce to the mfr's limitations. IDK, just seems peculiar that the elephant is MIA. That said, I still appreciate the influencers putting out their product, but I'm not likely as naive today as I once was about the significance of their emotional presentation.
johnvanr wrote:
If I want a sense of a camera or lens, I don’t care if the images are esthetically pleasing. That’s not how you test a camera or lens.
Those YT videos are just entertainment or handy, that’s it.
Definitely take them with good dose of salt. They can be a stimulus for my own fodder of consideration ... but, definitely recognize that no matter how much they say they are not biased, there comes a degree of influence the mfr and the process of being an influencer has on the influencer.
Even as it is unintended bias ... you watch enough of them, and you come to realize the influencers have been influenced.
I mean, the same folks that a scant few months / years / product releases ago ... would decry the Leica / Hasselblad tools as being "questionable" choices when so many other options are available for both performance / price point.
Now, those same influencers are touting what a joyful experience (spec / price be darned) the Leica / Hasselblad experience is.
And, of those that I watched regarding the SL3-P ... ummm, I didn't see much mention of the SL3-P vs. S1R II. I mean, if you are REALLY going to be unbiased, that's a seemingly obvious question that is a bit of an elephant in the room. And yet, crickets by many.
Makes me wonder if there could be some contractual criteria that excludes such direct comparison ... i.e. limiting the discussion to the provided product only. Kinda like how they have (at times) been limited to revealing jpgs (vs. raw), and they acquiesce to the mfr's limitations. IDK, just seems peculiar that the elephant is MIA. That said, I still appreciate the influencers putting out their product, but I'm not likely as naive today as I once was about the significance of their emotional presentation.
johnvanr wrote:
If I want a sense of a camera or lens, I don’t care if the images are esthetically pleasing. That’s not how you test a camera or lens.
Those YT videos are just entertainment or handy, that’s it.
Definitely take them with good dose of salt. They can be a stimulus for my own fodder of consideration ... but, definitely recognize that no matter how much they say they are not biased, there comes a degree of influence the mfr and the process of being an influencer has on the influencer.
Even as it is unintended bias ... you watch enough of them, and you come to realize the influencers have been influenced.
I mean, the same folks that a scant few months / years / product releases ago ... would decry the Leica / Hasselblad tools as being "questionable" choices when so many other options are available for both performance / price point.
Now, those same influencers are touting what a joyful experience (spec / price be darned) the Leica / Hasselblad experience is.
And, of those that I watched regarding the SL3-P ... ummm, I didn't see much mention of the SL3-P vs. S1R II. I mean, if you are REALLY going to be unbiased, that's a seemingly obvious question that is a bit of an elephant in the room. And yet, crickets.
Makes me wonder if there could be some contractual criteria that excludes such direct comparison ... i.e. limiting the discussion to the provided product only. Kinda like how they have (at times) been limited to revealing jpgs (vs. raw), and they acquiesce to the mfr's limitations. IDK, just seems peculiar that the elephant is MIA. That said, I still appreciate the influencers putting out their product, but I'm not likely as naive today as I once was about the significance of their emotional presentation.
johnvanr wrote:
If I want a sense of a camera or lens, I don’t care if the images are esthetically pleasing. That’s not how you test a camera or lens.
Those YT videos are just entertainment or handy, that’s it.
Definitely take them with good dose of salt. They can be a stimulus for my own fodder of consideration ... but, definitely recognize that no matter how much they say they are not biased, there comes a degree of influence the mfr and the process of being an influencer has on the influencer.
Even as it is unintended bias ... you watch enough of them, and you come to realize the influencers have been influenced.
I mean, the same folks that a scant few months / years / product releases ago ... would decry the Leica / Hasselblad tools as being "questionable" choices when so many other options are available for both performance / price point.
Now, those same influencers are touting what a joyful experience (spec / price be darned) the Leica / Hasselblad experience is.
And, of those that I watched regarding the SL3-P ... ummm, I didn't see much mention of the SL3-P vs. S1R II. I mean, if you are REALLY going to be unbiased, that's a seemingly obvious question that is a bit of an elephant in the room. And yet, crickets.
Makes me wonder if there could be some contractual criteria that excludes such direct comparison ... i.e. limiting the discussion to the provided product only. Kinda like how they have (at times) been limited to revealing jpgs (vs. raw), and they acquiesce to the mfr's limitations. IDK, just seems peculiar that the elephant is MIA.
johnvanr wrote:
If I want a sense of a camera or lens, I don’t care if the images are esthetically pleasing. That’s not how you test a camera or lens.
Those YT videos are just entertainment or handy, that’s it.
Definitely take them with good dose of salt. They can be a stimulus for my own fodder of consideration ... but, definitely recognize that no matter how much they say they are not biased, there comes a degree of influence the mfr and the process of being an influencer has on the influencer.
Even as it is unintended bias ... you watch enough of them, and you come to realize the influencers have been influenced.
I mean, the same folks that a scant few months / years / product releases ago ... would decry the Leica / Hasselblad tools as being "questionable" choices when so many other options are available for both performance / price point.
Now, those same influencers are touting what a joyful experience (spec / price be darned) the Leica / Hasselblad experience is.
And, of those that I watched regarding the SL3-P ... ummm, I didn't see much mention of the SL3-P vs. S1R II. I mean, if you are REALLY going to be unbiased, that's a seemingly obvious question that is a bit of an elephant in the room. And yet, crickets.
Makes me wonder if there could be some contractual criteria that excludes such direct comparison ... i.e. limiting the discussion to the provided product only. Kinda like how they have (at times) been limited to revealing jpgs (vs. raw), and they acquiesce to the mfr's limitations. IDK, just seems peculiar that the elephant is MIA.
johnvanr wrote:
If I want a sense of a camera or lens, I don’t care if the images are esthetically pleasing. That’s not how you test a camera or lens.
Those YT videos are just entertainment or handy, that’s it.
Definitely take them with good dose of salt. They can be a stimulus for my own fodder of consideration ... but, definitely recognize that no matter how much they say they are not biased, there comes a degree of influence the mfr and the process of being an influencer has on the influencer.
Even as it is unintended bias ... you watch enough of them, and you come to realize the influencers have been influenced.
I mean, the same folks that a scant few months / years / product releases ago ... would decry the Leica / Hasselblad tools as being "questionable" choices when so many other options are available for both performance / price point.
Now, those same influencers are touting what a joyful experience (spec / price be darned) the Leica / Hasselblad experience is.
Hmmmm ... who's influencing who.
Jul 02, 2026 at 05:36 AM
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