LBJ2 wrote: chiron wrote:
I am seriously considering getting a Leica Q3 43. I have always been interested in Leica but wanted autofocus, image stabilization, and a better viewfinder and more accurate focusing than a rangefinder and its linkage often provides. I like how the Q3 43 looks and what it offers. It is not something I need, but it might be fun and stimulating to have. 40-45mm is about my favorite and most often used focal length, so I am not worried about the fixed focal length. I mostly shoot travel, scenics, my grandchildren (ages 3-6), landscapes, street scenes, still lifes, etc. I am often trying to capture shades and tonalities of light.
I like to be able to shoot quickly something that suddenly presents itself, and I also like to work more slowly at getting an image, taking multiple shots over a period of thinking about what I am seeing.
My question is this: I am very used to a Sony A1 II and A7C R. For anyone who has used the Q3 and also some of Sony's cameras, what do you think I might like about the Q3 43 in comparison to the Sonys, and what might I miss or dislike on the Q3 43 that Sony's cameras offer?
Thanks for any insights.
FWIW. Adorama offers a free up to 60 day return period if you sign up for their VIP Pro subscription, $49 annually. Currently on limited time offer for $24.99. * I used their VIP program to try out my first Leica camera.
bro what are you doing? Adorama didn't do that so you can do a cheap rental of new camera gear.
Adorama is a sophisticated business with a long and financially successful track record. The 60 day return policy has clearly been well thought out and been successful financially. The kept product numbers are justifying the risk.
As long as one has a sincere interest to make the purchase the return policy is designed to make the opportunity to see if the product is a good fit for ones needs is what the program is intended for. This is very different than some one using the program to play with gear.
Most companies have return policies for the very same financial reasons. They track financial results on both a program and customer basis. They have checks and balances in place to mitigate abuse of the program.
Leica has a similar program itself but a shorter 14 day return privilage. The companies want a shot of closing the sale and know the risk they are incurring. I say if intent is sincere the program is valid.
Why do you think Adorama has this program? The right to return is not linked to any defect correct?
Also keep in mind that there are risks for the consumer in these programs as well. Including that the product must be returned in origional condition. 60 days is a long time to use a product heavily without some sort of signs of use. Sincerity of intent to purchase is key to both sides in such programs.
Adorama has a return policy eligibility stated here. to me that's not open to interpretation. you cannot "try" out a camera for an extended period and expect it to be like new condition.
whether there's sincere intent on buying or not, IMO this is not what it's for; that is why it's not called "trial period"
if i'm unsure about a product even after exhaustive research...especially if there's a chance it will not work for me, i rent it or i go to a physical store to try it out (_this_ is how i tried my first Leica ages ago).
there's a discussion here (among others, for sure) on whether Adorama sells returned products as new...i certainly don't want to receive a product that's been returned when i paid for a new item.
i'm sure there's nuances and case-by-case scenarios...but i don't want to get into that because i don't want to derail the topic.
Nonsense, and almost anyone in the retail mail order business will disagree with you on that. This is simply a customer confidence program that almost all mail order products contend with and have return policies for.
As an example, you would not order clothing on line without a return policy that allows you tow try on the clothes and return if it doesn't fit. That is true even if you wear it for a few times and you discover that it rubs uncomfortably. They have calculated and tracked the cost of this policy. It is a required customer acquisition and service policy.
So yes, it is designed to encourage you to buy before you try without risk as long as you fulfill the reasonable care conditions of the offer. It is a cornerstone of mail order businesses of almost all categories of products.
What companies do with returned products is a completely separate discussion. They should be disclosed as by law as not new. This is a primary source of "open box" and "refurbished" product offerings with discounts. I see absolutely nothing wrong with taking advantage of such offerings is one is serious about the purchase.
Apr 20, 2026 at 07:51 AM
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